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Biden pardoned his entire family and their spouses as Trump directly threatened all of them.
An outgoing president needing to pardon his family pre-emptively because the incoming president is threatening them is well along the path to fascism.
Good job electing Trump you fucking morons. I hope that the consequences of your own actions hurt you more than they hurt the rest of the world.
Good job electing Trump you fucking morons.
I’d like to thank the Gaza single issue voters and bLuEMagA mouth breathers, good job guys!
Gaza was either not big enough to affect the result, or big enough where your candidate should have acknowledged it. You can’t have it both ways.
To be honest, there is a lot of blame to be cast on the Dem leadership as well as the voters. They managed to run one of the most uninspiring campaigns of all time.
Americans are not the dumbest mf around because you voted a felon and the man who attempted a coup into office knowing full ell us has literally no measures to make him ever leave.
You are the dumbest mf around since you blame the other campaign for being uninspiring.
It was the most important election in US history: a literal felon who attempted a coup and was somehow not hanged for it vs a candidate.
Nah, they gave voters plenty to be hopeful about but none of them actually want that future. The choice was pretty damn clear.
yes, why couldnt those dumb peasants who never had it so good have gotten aboard genocide joes bandwagon? Its a real mystery that evidently no one can understand.
/s
What is Trump’s policy?
Oh. He lifted the pause on 2000lb bombs.
Definitely better.
FWIW, as an American, I really hope you’re right. Because there is serious potential for us to fuck up the entire rest of the world for a very, very long time.
The US fucked up the world a long time ago, we’re all entering the find out phase now.
To be fair they didn’t actually elect trump, the election was clearly rigged
I don’t understand why folks downvote comments pointing this out to be honest. Like bro, the man literally fucking said it out loud what more do you want. He’s quoted as saying a) Elon musk in some way stuffed the electronic ballots in PA and b) he (ie trump) wouldn’t be president if the election had not been rigged what more do you want bro serious question I’m fucking interested
We’ll never know now. The party and Biden/Harris were too busy feeling sorry for themselves to look into the voting irregularities that the cyber people were screaming about. Now its Jan21 and they are locked out of every level of government. Maybe they should have gotten off their asses and done something about it. Doing nothing is their pattern.
Rigged, no, Stolen, also no.
Results shifted due to successful propaganda from foreign countries and billionaires, yes.
This is the downside of Democracy, people are pretty dumb overall.
I don’t understand the enormous resistance to the extremely simple idea that obviously evil people obviously and literally rigged an election by literally adding new fake votes, a method so obvious and literal and with such pedigree and history that it has a name, which is ballot stuffing.
Sadly we would have embraced fascism whether voters elected Trump or Harris/Biden, as we’ve seen with the sentiment towards Palestinians.
With the former, it’s fascism. With the latter, it’s fascism-lite.
Ultimately, we’re going to reach a chilling point that will probably demand a WWIII. When that comes has probably now been accelerated due to Trump winning.
Sanders was our key to fighting fascism. Sadly Obama, Clinton, and Biden all kneecapped him in favor of billionaires and the status quo while claiming no responsibility for the seeds they sewed.
Giving his family the last train car out of germany before the third reich shuts down the border.
They may want do just that. Do anyone believe Trump will honor these pardons. Also are they even valid if they haven’t been charged with a crime.
It’s not about whether or not he honors them. The effectiveness of those preemptive pardons can be adjudicated by the SC. But there’s a couple of considerations on that front:
- will the SC concur that blanket pardons in advance of any charges are actually allowed?
- will Trump want to challenge that, since it would potentially kneecap any effort he makes later in that regard?
But also:
- will Trump or the SC give a shit about the blatant hypocrisy and double standard if they do strike down this sort of thing from Biden, but let Trump do it? (IMO probably not)
- if the SC gives a shit but Trump doesn’t, what’s to stop him using leverage and/or stochastic terrorism to help accelerate the conclusion of one or more justices’ tenure so he can slip someone more agreeable in?
- will the judicial branch even exist in an independent fashion in 4 years?
TL;DR: who fuckin knows at this point
Also are they even valid if they haven’t been charged with a crime.
Accepting the pardon actually requires admitting to the crime. So yes, the pardon is valid because the person has to go “yes I did this thing, and accept that I’m being pardoned for it.” You can’t selectively accept only the latter half of the pardon. And that admission and subsequent pardon means the state can’t charge them in the future, because they already admitted to it and were pardoned for it despite that admission of guilt.
But to your earlier point, there’s not much stopping Trump from trying to go after them anyways; The SCOTUS certainly won’t get in his way.
Yeah sure, poor Hunter Biden is totally persecuted like the Jews and other minorities in Nazi Germany…
It’s not that he WAS treated that way, it’s that the Trump camp desperately WANTS to treat him that way. That’s why they all need the protection.
If the comparison to Nazi Germany would not be far stretched currently, then all these people would have left the country by now. A pardon by Biden would not provide any protection.
Of course fascism is a process and i dont want to exclude that it can develop towards that. This can also happen faster than anticipated at first.
But if the Democrats would have seriously believed in things to get this way, they would have acted very differently before and especially now after the election. Or they only cared about a fascist threat to the extent that they hoped to mobilize voters by it, but they aren’t really opposed to it. For me this makes the most sense as capitalist oligarchs historically always were open to fascism.
If you have to pardon your family since the future felon president is assuming office that has no safeguards against dictatorship, then you really should’ve just have the next guy arrested and sent to quackamole bay
“The Repbulicans under Trump will end Democracy! Vote for us!”
“How about you use your legal powers to prevent a threat to Democracy? How about you run on a popular platform?”
“Yeah no, we don’t do that. Also we got Dick Cheney on board. Look at all the ghosts of Iraqi kids he murdered glooming behind him. Aren’t they cute? Also we will enact more policies for the good billionaires. #Vibes.”
As the Democrats have declared there is good billionaires and bad billionaires, it should be obvious that they are two sides of the same oligarchy.
If you want anything to improve you need to get rid of the oligarchy as a whole. But the oligarchy has successfully spend a lot of money on gaslighting people into fighting over which oligarchs to support instead.
Yeah dude, Biden had to pardon his entire family but it is Trump’s fault 🙄. Just like Hunter.
Perfectly normal country
Sad. In “The Land of the Free” you should never have to do this. We are well and truly fucked if this tribalism isn’t put down. Cutting into our education has done irreparable damage.
