OKY, Im not 100% sure I will play one very soon, but Im curious about MMOs in 2025. I used to play WoW around its release and up through Burning Crusade. Hows the MMO landscape in 2025? What are some good MMOs to try if I wanted to give one or two a shot?
I did play other MMOs than WOW here and there. Namely Aion, Guildwars 1 and other smaller ones.
I’m open to trying most types of MMOs and don’t mind subscribing monthly if it’s worth it. I’m especially curious about MMOs besides WoW (which would probably be the obvious choice), but I kind of want to try something different—even if WoW in 2025 is a completely different game compared to 2006
Oh btw. Doesnt need to be a MMORPG could be something like Foxhole or Ark as well. As long as its a game with servers and many players.
Thanks for any input
The mmo genre is a collection of people continuing to play FFXIV and WoW while desperately thirsting for something new that isn’t being provided.
I used to have Blue Protocol (cancelled) and Ashes of Creation on my radar. Ashes has dropped off my interest because it’s designed around pvp in a way that will not retain players as the losing players will not have fun.
The only one on my radar for the future right now is Stars Reach, which is being developed by the dude I consider responsible for Ultima Online, Star Wars Galaxies and Everquest 2. If there is anyone in this industry that actually seems to understand mmo communities as a social phenomena it seems to be him, even if he is a little techbro brainwormed at times. The game is basically trying to be Noita style interactions but 3d at mmo scale with all the mmo economy bells and whistles you’d expect. It is the first thing in a long time that I’ve seen which is genuinely trying to do something new that does not actually already exist and that alone is genuinely interesting.
Everyone is really really thirsty for new mmos so any slop released gets MASSIVE then drops off hard when it doesn’t meet expectations, typically korean mmos filled with the most grindy and obnoxious systems in existence. Lost Ark’s player count chart illustrates this well https://steamdb.info/app/1599340/charts/#max or I guess a more recent example would be Throne and Liberty: https://steamdb.info/app/2429640/charts/#max
Is there anything the MMO crowd is looking for that could be accomplished by an indie studio, or is the draw tied to the huge wealth of content that FFXIV and WoW have?
Boss fights. I’m sure this idea isn’t original, but my friends and I always had the idea that for someone mostly interested in raiding and dungeons, you could cut out just about every other part of the MMO.
But keep classes, keep gear, and focus the game on going through tightly designed dungeons with fun mechanics. Can also have various sizes from 2, 4, 6, 8 or however many people. Add challenges, time trials, medals, modifiers.
There are games like this but none of them I know of function like an MMO with tab targeting, ability bars, etc like in WoW. Stuff like Left 4 Dead or Vermintide but with more unique boss fights.
Unfortunately, full MMOs are very expensive, time consuming, and risky to make to where even many AAA developers won’t attempt it, let alone Indies.
Raph Koster’s studio for Stars Reach is indie. Looks like they have an unlaunched kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/starsreach/stars-reach
The draw of mmo’s is different for a lot of different players. For some it’s the dungeon loop. For some it’s the questing. For some it’s the social aspect (for me it is this) of creating guilds and making a name for them in the community.
full MMOs are very expensive, time consuming, and risky to make to where even many AAA developers won’t attempt it, let alone Indies.
I don’t think this is true anymore. A lot of indie studios have made mmos, some successful. AAA games these days have ballooned in cost to make to the point that they average 200m - 300m. Lost Ark cost $80m to make. So as far as comparing mmo budgets to AAA game budgets the mmos are actually cheap by comparison now.
FF14 is free to play until you finish the main quest line. It’s a very cozy game and has a chill user base. MMO design has completely stagnated since WoW, but if you have the itch ff14 is like the least toxic choice.
Imo WoW is still good, but the sheer amount of content make 90% of game neglected and basically just be there for nostalgia trips and transmog, but this is same thing as in every other games with seasons.
Star Wars Old Republic is also still there and free until you hit endgame, so it’s definitely worth checking.
Except that i can’t think of a single new MMORPG game that wouldn’t be action slasher with combos and other twitchy shit so the genre is in deep stagnation in bad place generally.
Star Wars Old Republic is also still there and free until you hit endgame, so it’s definitely worth checking.
Agree with this. I used to play SWTOR a lot and the first 55 levels especially are really good. That is the initial release and the first expansion (rise of the hut cartel). The rest I could give or take to be honest, but it’s by far the best story telling I’ve seen in an MMO. It’s really fun to go around to 2-3 other people all playing different classes and you can all watch each other’s stories and their choices and then help them with the combat in their quests while they help you with yours. It’s really well designed in that you all basically take turns doing your personal stories and then there’s usually a planet specific quest chain that slots in along side those. Great for small group multiplayer.
Sadly, I don’t have anymore Windows machines, so cannot play it anymore, but I have to admit the story kind of went off the rails with the expansion where they basically established a second hidden empire that suddenly attacks the galaxy.
Imo WoW is still good, but the sheer amount of content make 90% of game neglected and basically just be there for nostalgia trips and transmog, but this is same thing as in every other games with seasons.
It’s a guilty pleasure for me. I still sorta like it, but it felt a lot easier to connect with people and make friends in the past. Nowadays, I just get on every few months to a year to grind m+ solo
There’s a great MMO .
i wish i could recommend OSRS but they raised the price significantly last year and it also seems like they’re gonna completely ruin the game before too long:(
