197 points

Lots of maga people are going to find out quickly that a major function of government jobs and social welfare programs are to redistribute wealth from the rich cities to the country.

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You may be surprised if they don’t.

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I think an often overlooked part of the MAGA demographic is that it’s comprised of two large groups: often rural, working class, conservative voters who vote on emotional or single issue areas like abortion, 2nd amendment, or military support and wealthy upper class business owners who benefit from reduced economic and environmental regulation. It seems Republicans in power always seem to pass legislation that benefits the later while screwing over the former, and yet they keep voting for Republicans anyway.

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32 points

I love the poorly educated!

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8 points

Why would this change now?

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7 points

The key is “emotional” they are essentially telling them that all their ills are due to immigrants, gays, atheists, trans, minorities and so on

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2 points

+1 but add racism to your list.

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1 point

*latter

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13 points

Those demonrats really messed things up this time! Now I don’t even get muh benefits! This is all Bidens fault! /s

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They dont understand their daily life is subsidized by the federal government, and that cutting those programs means their share of the costs go up.

The majority of red states aren’t self sustainable.

If blue states said fuck it and stopped sending the Fed money, it would go broke along with every red state except Texas I think. But they need federal funding every year for climate disasters

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They won’t understand after, either, as they’ll be told that Democrats are somehow keeping them from getting their due. And for some reason they’ll believe it.

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5 points

They’ll learn real quick when their SSI and Disability checks dry up…

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“Here’s the rub: no one in Washington gives a damn,” said Steele. “Not on Capitol Hill, not on K Street, because they’re all trying to figure out how they get a piece of it or get protected…So, we’re all bought in here onto this. The American people signed on the dotted line. Do more of this. And they think that they’re going to benefit.”

He explained that $2 trillion in cuts would have to impact the MAGA world. One of Trump’s first actions was to roll back President Joe Biden’s 2022 executive order lowering prescription drug prices for those in Medicare and Medicaid.

“They’re not telling you where it’s coming from. And you know who’s going to ultimately pay for it? All the MAGA in places like Alabama and Mississippi, who already rely on a lot of federal dollars to make their ends meet in those states,” said Steele. “It’s not going to hurt California. It’s not going to hurt New York. They contribute massive amounts of dollars and get back very few federal dollars. Where this comes home to roost is in the very center of MAGA land, and they seem to be okay with that. So cut away, my friend, and just let the squealing begin.”

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No shit. For all their railing against taxes and entitlements, Red states overwhelmingly benefit from them while Blue states largely fund them. 4 of the top 5 most dependent states are Red (Alaska, West Virginia, Mississippi, and Montana). And 4 of the top 5 least dependent states are Blue (Minnesota, New Jersey, Delaware, and Illinois). They are shooting themselves in the foot, as always.

Source: https://smartasset.com/data-studies/states-most-dependent-federal-government-2023

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Interesting link and based on it every single state but New Mexico is paying in more than they are getting out, meaning that 49 of the 50 are carrying their own water. What the high contribution states like Minnesota are really paying for is all of the other stuff that the Federal Government does.

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There are always administrative costs that drain a portion of the revenue. It’s unavoidable. However, the losses to administrative costs would be significantly higher for each state were they to replace them with state-run alternatives. Particularly in those states where the services are in highest demand. Right now, West Virginia only gets back a dollar for every $1.04 spent, yes. That may seem like it would be in their interest to omit themselves from federal taxes and services. But then they would either have to replace those services themselves or leave their citizens without. Were they to replace the federal services themselves, that $1.04 would almost certainly be higher, potentially multiple times higher. And were they to leave their citizens without, people leave, turn to crime or die.

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8 points

If California could somehow give me option to redirect my federal tax to the state I would gladly do it.

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67 points

Let’s not act like they will learn from this. They did not in the past and they won’t in the coming clusterfuck.

Stop acting like we are dealing with adults.

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20 points

they didn’t get hit nearly as hard as they are going to this time around. You might still be correct, some will literally suck his dick with their dying breath, but some will also get a new drug bill and freak du’fuq out

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19 points

And then continue to blame the Democrats.

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I hope you are right. But they probably will continue to blame immigrants, democrats, gay people, etc.

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53 points

There are still Brexit supporters. As an example.

There is no bottom.

They will never change their minds because their decisions aren’t based on facts or logic.

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23 points

You can’t reason someone out of a position that they didn’t reason themselves into.

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36 points

Can we call it DGE since ‘of’ isn’t normally included in acronyms, for example DMV and not DOMV

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23 points

Let’s call it shit.

It’s not an acronym but it’s fitting.

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SHIT:

Stupid

Human

Interfering with

Things

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6 points

DOGE SHIT

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17 points

That whole thing is already redundant and pointless similar to the meme coins he did before inauguration.

There’s already Office of Management and Budget (OMB).

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15 points

Doge is a good dog meme and doesn’t deserve to be saddled with all this bullshit.

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Just call it the fake agency because it’s not real. Presidents cannot create executive branch departments.

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