Summary

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez criticized Elon Musk after he made a gesture during Trump’s inauguration resembling a Nazi salute.

Musk and his allies dismissed the comparison, calling such accusations exaggerated.

Ocasio-Cortez, however, called the gesture unacceptable, emphasizing America’s history of opposing Nazis and the Confederacy.

She also condemned the Anti-Defamation League for defending Musk, accusing it of losing credibility.

Her comments sparked broader debate on symbols, gestures, and their implications amid Trump’s return to office.

271 points

If she’s the only one in office that’s willing to say anything about this, we’re in a lot more trouble than we thought.

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Oh, it’s even worse: Dem leadership is actively suppressing her ascendancy.

Fixed

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60 points

Democratic leadership is gonna fuck everything up. We need a new branch of the party similar to what the tea party did for Republicans. They may not be relevant today, but I believe they permanently changed the Republican Party (for the worse in my liberal opinion).

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14 points

Yeah, they’re still trying to litigate which progressive group to blame, instead of looking in the mirror and saying “holy fuck we really screwed the pooch, didn’t we?”

The “adults in the room” sleepwalked us into a fascist sweep of the elections, and they don’t seem to see anything fucking wrong with that. The Democratic Party no longer deserves to be a party after this. This will go down as one of the most catastrophic own-goals in the history of the republic, if not the absolute worst. Yes, I am fully aware of the civil war, and the antebellum political context, and my statement stands.

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16 points

They took that page down

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Did ABC take the link down? It’s not there anymore EDIT: Nevermind I found the link https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ocasio-cortez-loses-bid-top-democrat-house-oversight/story?id=116874211

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5 points

Thanks

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Really, it’s these establishment Democrats that have made it the party of slow reaction times, large government, and inefficiency. AOC should be elevated, and elevated, and elevated again. She’s an American hero and patriot and should have been given more responsibility long ago.

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20 points

Fascism isn’t coming.

It’s here.

And the number of people standing up against it is so small it’s practically the butt of a joke.

We’re cooked. Buy a gun. Protect yourself.

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8 points

Build a drone. Learn how to fly it. Even better for long range, are the wood and paper rc planes that are expendable and being used in Ukraine.

Or designing our own versions of the cardboard ones from all our empty amazon boxes.

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17 points

Surprise!

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149 points

It didn’t resemble a Nazi salute. It was a Nazi salute.

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53 points

Yeah all these media sources keep saying things like “a day after Musk used an arm gesture, twice, that resembled the Roman salute adopted by the Nazis.”

It’s blatantly obvious that they’re afraid of getting sued. Kind of like instead of saying someone lied, they’ll soften it up to say they made a statement that some fact checkers may disagree with.

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31 points

I remember Robert Evans from BTB saying that when he worked in journalism, ANY story on a rich person was automatically followed up on by a lawsuit from the person in question, so they’d have legal on a retainer ready to respond.

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Yup. Twice in a row. Exactly as the Nazis did it.

Stand to attention facing the crowd. Hand to chest, then full extension. Turn around to face the Fuhrer, or if he isn’t there, the Nazi flag. Then stand to attention and sieg heil again.

He did it. It’s not debatable. Don’t engage in debate with bad actors attempting to rewrite this history. The richest man in the world, who will act in an official capacity in the White House, is openly a Nazi. Because you are a Nazi if you perform a Nazi salute.

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8 points

Yeah, he did it a second time to assure everyone of this.

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He did it better the second time around.

The first time looked a little awkward (though definitely recognizable as a Nazi salute.) The second one was spot on.

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120 points

Behold the one prominent US politician with any principles.

And for that she will never be allowed near any real power…

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57 points

It’s one of the reasons reactionaries hate her so much.

And also that she’s a woman of color who didn’t stay “in her place.”

And it’s so annoying to hear liberals parrot the same shit because the conglomerates who own liberal media don’t want to change the status quo.

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23 points

You for got Sanders

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11 points

We do t deserve Bernie

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21 points

Only time I think I ever really got triggered about politics was when a friend of mine mentioned voting against Sanders just because he felt condoms shouldn’t be included in universal health care, no other reason.

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14 points

He’s old AF, and a good person. He’ll probably die seeing the country he tried so hard to save slide into full on fascism. He deserves more than that.

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18 points

There’s a few more, but she’s the most charismatic. It’s a shame too, they tend to win more than their moderate counterparts during midterm races.

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103 points

AOC, you personally might hate Nazis, but your country voted them into the White House, the congress, and the Senate. I wish you the best to fight the scum, like real Americans did 80 years ago.

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The ones who don’t aren’t our countrymen and I look forward to the day enough of us recognize it.

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10 points

Yeah but when my grandfather did it he had an M1

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My grandfather was in the Navy on the pacific theater. Japanese fascists, German fascists, Italian fascists, all died the same way.

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1 point

She’s not here to hear you. Send that as an email/voicemail so she knows what you want to say.

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95 points

Do we though? Do we really, truly, hate Nazis? The evidence so far is not that conclusive.

I hate Nazis, but I don’t think the country as a whole hates Nazis.

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19 points

Well, you certainly used to, judging by the efforts and sacrifices 80 years ago, but there’s certainly a lot of evidence to indicate a lot of Americans of today think you were on the wrong side back then.

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37 points

You may want to reread some history, there were plenty of Nazi sympathizers and collaborators (read: nazis) in the US back then too.

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Oh I’m well aware, but push came to show and the better minds prevailed, back then, and as a result, so did the country.

I’m not convinced the outcome would’ve been the same today.

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See, that’s the issue though, you say they “think you were on the wrong side”… but they don’t think. They put on a hat with the team colors and just thoughtlessly repeat the chants as the organist plays the fight song.

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