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"Fascist raids by law enforcement should be met with:
I don’t know.
I can’t help.
I do not know anybody’s legal status.
I have no idea who is an immigrant.
White folks are used to being polite and accommodating to cops.
Do not fall into your old ways.
For once, your silence will not be violence. STFU if the cops come looking for your neighbours. No matter how friendly.
Fascism only works if we go along with it. Fascism only works if we surrender to it.
Resist.
Do not say a word about your neighbours. As far as the cops are concerned you’re a recluse who doesn’t talk to anybody where you live."
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the only illegal immigrant I know is elon musk
The only proper response to a door knock is “come back with a warrant”.
Rights are rights for a reason, don’t let that shit erode any further.
That is fine while you have the rule of law and independent institutions to enforce those rights. When those institutions are eroded or facing the barrel of a gun then people’s rights might as well he written on toilet paper.
You can’t make up for a dysfunctional political system with demands for fictional rights.
People from one particular notable country always get the emphasis wrong in my opinion. Perhaps they are all brainwashed. They think the rights uphold their system when in truth it is the system that upholds the rights. It has kept them blind to the reforms needed to breathe life into a system that barely qualifies as a democracy by modern standards.
The only proper response to a door knock is to not open the door.
If the fascist pigs have a warrant, they’ll find their own way inside anyway. Otherwise, they can stay the fuck out.
Sorry to disappoint, but
they’ll find their own way inside anyway.
Warrant or not.
Still, there’s no point in making it easy for them. The sooner you accept that your rights won’t be protected, the sooner they’ll disappear entirely. You must act as if your rights are natural laws of the universe, and if enough people do then they may as well be.
That’s a song about people standing up for their rights and for those of others, doesn’t really apply to the US, let’s be honest
Most will be sitting on their pile of guns, quivering with fear
I’d also like to take this moment to remind how to handle a police interaction in the USA, in a one minute video described by a few lawyers: STFU Friday!
This is terrible legal advice, do not do this.
If you stonewall during an actual questioning with local police they can treat you as a hostile witness, or even attempt to charge you with aiding and abetting or impeding an investigation. It probably won’t stick, but you’re still not going to have a great time. As they say, you can beat the charge, but you can’t beat the ride.
If you are officially being questioned be polite, keep an even tone and demeanor and state " I would really love to help you in your investigation, but I would like to speak to my lawyer first." If they press you afterwards just keep repeating that you would really like to help, but to do so you require legal representation. That way if anyone can be accused of slowing down an investigation it’s the police, and it’s because they are wasting time denying you your rights.
Do not make statements to the police without a lawyer present, even if it’s something as small as “I don’t know”. More than likely if it’s for immigration, these will be federal officers. If you lie to a federal officer, you will be charged with a felony.
So when they say “ok, call your lawyer” then what?
I don’t have a criminal defense attorney’s number memorized, nor have I ever engaged one. Do I just web search and pick the one in my area? Are they going to show up?
That’s not entirely the proper response.
I hate that I’ve already posted the video twice so I’m not going to do it again because I don’t want to get marked for spam lol, but check my comment history if you got a minute to see a few lawyers describe what to do.
In essence though, if it’s a door knock don’t even answer it. There’s nothing good on the other side of that door, and in that scenario there are only two options for them: either they can get a warrant, in which case they’re coming in anyway with or without your consent so it doesn’t even matter, or if they don’t have one (far more likely) then they can go pound sand for all I care. If I’m not legally obligated to answer that door then I’m not going to.
If it’s a traffic stop, it’s a simple amount of phrasing but amounts that are very important to say to exercise your rights. If being asked questions unrelated to the quoted traffic violation, a simple “I’m not discussing my day”. If they continue asking questions, ask “Am I being detained or am I free to go”. This forces them to either only engage in the stop as needed or, if they do detain, at this point the mystery is now gone and they have to handle things by the book: meaning you are informed that you are being detained, it is for xyz reason of belief, then at this point you can state that you “invoke the fifth” (must be said, but you have the right to not answer questions and not self-incriminate), and then you STFU. If said detainment was ever escalated from there to the point of being thrown in the back of the squad car, it’s at this point that you could then request an attorney at the station and IIRC they must provide one. It will likely be an overworked public defendant attorney, but to answer the question there you go.
TLDR Don’t be the soverign citizen immediately starting with “I want a lawyer am I detained am I free to go” as soon as they walk up to the window, but know your rights and when to execute them in order. These rights apply to all people in America by the way, not just citizens, so keep that in mind and don’t let feds try to scare you into thinking you don’t have these kinds of rights. You do.
(I am not a lawyer, and this is not legal advice from a lawyer, just a local dumbass on the internet, but this is to my knowledge factual information.)
I think usually people just call a friend or family member and ask them to find one.
Or contact ACLU (for USA) and ask them to help you find one.
Or if your income is low, demand a public defender, you can always get a different lawyer after you are out on bail (if you could afford it, that is, otherwise you’d have to deal with the public defender, just don’t be rude to your public defender, they are still qualified lawyers, just with higher workload)
Remember, the “only one call” rule is a hollywood thing, but if the person you are calling is not a lawyer, the calls can be legally recorded.
Depends on your jurisdiction. What’s supposed to happen is any questions stop, they may let you reschedule at a later date with your attorney, or they may hold you for arraignment. Usually they will have a list of defense attorneys, or your county may have a defense attorneys hotline, or at least a yellow book. But it entirely depends on where you are.
If you are booked in a location that doesn’t have any information available. I would suggest calling a friend or family member to contact an attorney for you.
You may choose to say, “I would really love to help you in your investigation, but I would like to speak to my lawyer first.” I would choose to say, “Fuck off fucking fascist.” ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And you would be sitting in a cell awaiting arraignment, the exact place the police want people who do not cooperate with authority.
I never said to actually provide the police with any information. The whole point of having a lawyer is that they get to handle the heat.
With an attorney present saying that you won’t cooperate isn’t a crime. All you’ll have to say is, sorry I would like to help but I’ve been advised by my legal representation to not speak to you.
I grew up in a small town on the border when the border patrol would ask us if we had seen any aliens we would always just look up and say I think I saw one flying around up there
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