156 points

Good luck convincing the rubes that. Literally heard jokes about “global warming” today in the office. Had to say, well its climate change actually and wild shit means its not doing good.

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59 points

Should have called it “climate instability” or “climate chaos” from the start.

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It shouldn’t have been “save the planet”, it should have been “save the humans” because the planet will be here long after we’re gone

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There once was an explosion the size of Russia because the coal and oil underneath it got in contact with magma, killing 99.8% of all life on earth (before the dinosaurs) 🦕🦖- this process released more CO2 in the atmosphere than if we would burn all the fossil fuel today (I’ve forgotten by how much more)

Earth took its time, couple million years, but the carbon-silicate balance was restored. Edit: Fun fact 2 - during this time there are records of winds >800 mph, acid rain and temperatures >180°F

Fun fact: There was not a single mass extinction because of the shift of the magnetic poles, all mass extinctions can be linked to the carbon-silicate balance.

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19 points

“war on summer” might be the only one that works

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5 points

You will pry my summers from my cold dead fingers.

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Climate Crisis is my preferred term. Gets the point across quite nicely.

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36 points

Easy money.

“It’s cold as fuck because a monster bolus of hot air hit the arctic from the other side of the planet, sent a chunk of the polar vortex down here. Heat directly caused this. Did you have a problem with the word ‘bolus’, or perhaps understanding the Earth is spherical? Was ‘spherical’ too big a word? I can dumb this down if need be.”

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28 points

Yeah except I myself didnt know that directly either. I just knew that, no, this is because of climate change not in spite of it.

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16 points

‘It’s not okay to be this stupid.’

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Speaking of which ~

5 Physics Equations Everyone Should Know

https://www.wired.com/story/5-physics-equations-everyone-should-know/

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9 points

Please don’t get yourself fired!? Facts themselves are political these days:-(.

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Let them know that they changed the term to “climate change” so that stupid people would understand that the Earth getting hotter on average will make some places colder, because ice that used to be staying put, will now melt into water, which will flow into places where there wasn’t water before.

That’s about as dumbed down an explanation as is possible, I think, lol.

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Honestly we are way past the point of any scientific reasoning. The public has voted that they are uninterested, and the US government and large corporations are about to be uninterested too.

To be blunt… No one ever really cared, but the world kinda squeaked by putting scientists in front of statesmen and public broadcasts. Everyone kinda nodded along, and not just for global warming.

That period is over.

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A few people cared, fewer did anything about it. Most were more concerned with mass production of cheap shit.

Got a heat pump to replace the gas boiler, bike instead of car and replaced the concrete paved garden with what will hopefully become a wildflower meadow with shrubs on the edges. You can actually just stop buying a lot of the stuff that is causing these problems.

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4 points

God people like you make it sound so easy and then I tried it to find it’s actually even easier.

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I know! Its so easy its great! Plus its generally cheaper too, so I don’t have to work very hard and I still have enough money. God damn life is easy.

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The issue was never the average person. Corporations have always been the issue. Even if everyone on the planet tried to live as green as possible, the corporations would still cause too much damage for us to undo. The only way the average person could have made an impact was by attacking the corporations and their means of polluting the planet. That meant sabotaging their facilities. But the climate change movement was too focused on peaceful protest, and there has been evidence that points the blame for this on the corporations once again. For everyone, the issue wasn’t that they weren’t willing to live green enough (which is true that most people just didn’t bother, but it isn’t what caused the issue of climate change in the first place and wouldn’t have been the answer either), it was that they weren’t willing to risk their life and privileges to dismantle the system that caused it. The threat of climate change was not imminent or tangible enough for people to take real action.

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18 points

No actually the people are interested and the megacorps still destroys the planet because they have no soul they worship only profit

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3 points

Then why are so few people engaged?

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Edit: sorry for the rant. Morning Adderall and lots of thoughts on the subject. :)

I think a lot simply don’t know what they can effectively do about it. As is usually the issue with lefty causes, it’s a lot more brain-work and more complicated than chanting a petty slogan and/or a vague willingness to raid a capitol with no actual goal or understanding in mind.

Right now, beyond just trying to hustle the next dollar to keep existing while under this stupidity, it’s very difficult for us average working-class folk to understand how we can actually punish these powers responsible. Corporations and their fascist backers have become hydras.

If there was some kind of “Here’s how you can effectively ruin these bastards’ day for a better tomorrow without risking prison” playbook we could agree on, I’m sure a lot of people would be willing.

We mock neoliberal masses for buying EVs thinking it’s saving the planet, but at the same time, buying something is one of the few levers the average person is allowed to pull, and they were told it would help. I’d like to think they mean well even though they’re being manipulated.

They try to recycle and try to vote and try to stop buying stuff on Amazon, then sigh and keep trudging along when that obviously doesn’t change anything. They probably get tired of being told they’re not doing anything, especially without some sort of unifying “do this instead.”

Some radicals block traffic and make a general nuisance of themselves occasionally and we watch as nothing happens.

Schoolkids appeal to liberal politicians to stop a doomed future and get chuckled out of the room. Nothing happens.

Whistleblowers expose corporate plans too evil for Saturday morning cartoons and end up conveniently killing themselves. Nothing happens.

I think we’re past the point of diminishing returns on silly stunts for “Raising awareness”.

Enough people know. Although complacent, they care. But give them a week off work to stop climate change and they still don’t know what options they have available to them. Or where their allies are.

Furthermore, generally we tend to want to be good people who don’t want to ruin our lives by openly warring with powers that be.

The Right gets away with their BS because they don’t negatively impact profits. They’re sock-puppet proxies for an astroturfed holy-war that’s ultimately about cutting labor and drilling more oil, so even treason charges aren’t enough.

But if we could finally stop arguing theory and get pissed off enough to march on Washington together or whatever, 2nd-amendment toting or not, we’d definitely be met with force for wanting to shut down the slave-driven garbage machines.

So besides “beg your reps” and “stop buying stupid things from evil companies” (almost everything at this point)…

What’s our rallying cry?

How do we engage? Who’s going to step up and lead?

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2 points

Do you know? I don’t understand why I should know? I think many people are also so I don’t get the premise

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0 points

They cannot survive without buyers. People as a statistical whole do not care when we’re talking about entire populations

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0 points

No, that is not true

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No one ever really cared

That’s just not true. The problem is that the people who care were never the kind of people who’d come into power in our society.

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6 points

Dayum. Well said. Though some people cared. We, the few, and Al Gore, for example. The great majority, no. It does appear that period is over, I agree. Perhaps this is how it has been for the last 4-5 decades. Maybe this hope’s death will be the last in our history.

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4 points

:’(

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It’s ok, some life will survive, but the human pests will be eradicated.

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I’m fine with that, they chose not to be worthy. I saw the masses shout it very clearly, they want to keep this nonsense going ad undas.

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2 points

There could be more options to choose from if we enacted electoral reform and gave voters the freedom to vote outside the two party system with no spoiler effect.

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We’d also need campaign finance reform (revoke Citizen’s United for 1), get rid of insider trading, net neutrality, etc. which would all benefit each other and benefit from electoral reform

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60 points

The graphic isn’t all that accurate. The text says a colder period is because of a warmer planet but then the cold area from a meandering jet stream looks larger. The missing part is the warmer air that leaks into the polar areas, causing a feedback loop by further deteriorating the balance of cold and warm that drives the jet stream.

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29 points

You try drawing spherical stuff on a flat surface. Shits hard 🤣🤣

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this one might be more clear. still the same story though

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It’s a bit prettier. What’s missing (and I know this is meme territory so it’s not a big deal) is how the jet stream is not just weak and wandering, but literally breaking in places and that’s where warm air into the poles happens. And it’s not hard to understand warmer where there’s normally ice means less ice.

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59 points

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

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It’s not the rich call it what it is. Capital. When profits are impacted we will see change. This is why I continue to say no one is going to bat an eye when Florida gets swallowed by the ocean but when New York does? That’s when we will have a collective eye opening.

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Capital

Poor word choice. It is more profitable to build renewables today. Oligarchist power to protect their existing assets, is not “rational capital allocation”, but is what we get from power to corrupt capital allocation.

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2 points

[Cries in Angeleno]

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Elon thinks he’ll make it mars with neuralink implant, Peter Thiel will run his fiefdom in new Zealand, the Orange God King will…

Xi Jin ping will continue doing communism with chinese characteristics and lean harder into Confucianism, the Europeans will return to fiefdom Feudalism

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50 points

Sounds too complicated to be true. Obvious explanation is Jewish Space Laser!

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17 points

Ha, you believe in space

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Palestinian*

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