For hours today, yesterday, and intermittently since I’ve been on here (a month or so) lemmy stops loading using jerboa, liftoff, and a web browser.
The site isn’t listed on any down detector I know of, and each app gives different errors but ultimately just won’t load.
It’s often enough that recently when I consider jumping on here I just don’t because there will probably be an issue. Ranging from not loading, JSON errors, or just blank screens and my comments not working…
What’s going on? Is there a status page for these places?
There is a status page up on https://status.lemmy.world
We have been dealing with some DDOS attacks and are still taking extra measures to get everything more stable but we are working with people in different timezones so it’s not always as easy to react.
So yes, we are working on improving things.
Perfect thank you!
Do you guys need help dealing with the security side? I can help depending on the need.
Hacker attacks, a tankie power mod, incel, /poltics being toxic. I think this site has really made it.
Sorry for being a bit harsh, but I have little sympathy for the admins of lemmy.world. Instead of looking for ways to disperse the people around other instances, it seems that the people behind .world are rushing to grab mindshare and concentrate as many people as they can in their own servers.
The threadiverse is not healthy when almost 50% of the active user base is in the same instance. The lemmy.ml admins basically shut down their instance for registration and said “please look elsewhere”. Why can’t you do the same?
It’s not that we can not handle the load caused by users or by the amount of communities. It’s because of DDOS attacks and even with cloudflare some of these attacks are challenging due to the way lemmy works. No instance is safe from these attacks but the bigger instances get targeted. We weren’t the only instance that went down today.
I don’t think we do anything wrong here? None of us are being paid, we all put in a lot of time and effort to keep things running. You don’t know how many passionate people are involved “behind the scenes” seeing you call out the admins of lemmy.world.
You can’t please everyone, and some people will always find a stick. But I still think a lot of people believe in our team, our policies and what we are trying to do here. If that’s not your thing, fine, you can look elsewhere.
No instance is safe from these attacks but the bigger instances get targeted.
Then don’t work to become a big instance.
None of us are being paid,
If not you, someone is profiting from this
you can look elsewhere.
I’d love to, except lemmy.world went on to a huge land grab, cloned every possible popular community on reddit and is not giving any signs that will stop. Almost 50% of the user base is unreasonable and it goes against the ethos of federation and decentralization. An instance going down should not be newsworthy, but because it’s so big (relative to the others) it introduces systemic risk and approaches “too big to fail” status.
I shouldn’t be the one telling you.
They’re not advertising or telling people to come to lemmy.world… people are coming here and they’re just accommodating them instead of blowing them off
To be honest, what upsets me is the amount of communities that already existed elsewhere but they decided to recreate under their own service. Why does everything need to be under their umbrella? Why not point the users to the already existing communities? It would even help avoid the issues they are having now.
The threadiverse is not healthy when almost 50% of the active user base is in the same instance.
Eh, it’s only a tiny fraction of what the userbase will be eventually, so unless other instances fail to step up the “problem” will solve itself.
It’s not lemmy.world’s fault that people like it.
There’s been a DOS attack against the site and its database. The admins said they were going to move over to CloudFlare for DDoS protection and yeah, I just checked, they’re getting served by CloudFlare now. Instability issues should go away.
I bailed on them for now and made an account on a much smaller instance so everything loads again. Thankfully with federation you can still see all the same content, you just need to set up subscriptions again on the new account if you choose to go that route.
I suggested joining a new instance in another support thread.
For some reason, even though it’s the whole philosophy behind federated networking, people didn’t like the idea.
Is the mentality here degrading to levels of Reddit fanboy-ism? If so, I’m DEFINITELY gonna migrate
I was really surprised by this too but yeah, people want to be on the same largest instance. I guess it’s a community feeling by doing that. Or at least a feeling of safety, since it’s unlikely the instance shuts down.
In addition to a large instance being less likely to shut down and (presumably) having more resources, there’s an additional advantage to being on a larger instance: you have a more comprehensive “All” feed. Since federation with a remote feed isn’t established until (IIRC) someone subscribes to it, an instance with a larger user base should contain more subscriptions to a wider variety of content. Of course, not everyone will like that and you lose out on Beehaw content if you’re on the two largest Lemmy instances, but I think it applies in general.
At this point, I don’t believe lemmy.world will shut down. But the constant outages are going to push people away regardless. Luckily people have nearly limitless options of instances to join.
Though, the average schmo just recently coming from Reddit won’t understand “Instances” or “federation”, and just give up on Lemmy as a platform overall once they see how unstable it is. lemmy.world is currently the front-door to the fediverse for a lot of people here.
I got a few new people on my instance that specifically said they wanted a smaller instance while Lemmy.world had issues.
I think there are like 1100+ instances now. No reason to hang out on the largest one unless you absolutely have to.
Once you have two or more accounts, it’s just a click in the mobile client (Jerboa, Liftoff etc) to switch profiles. Takes a second.
You will have to set up your subscriptions to communities again though on a new account. That can be annoying but kind of worth it.
My list of blocked porn communities is more than double my list of subscribed communities; reblocking would be the biggest pill.
I’ve used Lemmy Account Settings Instance Migrator, which migrates your blocked communities and settings as well as your subscriptions. It worked for me, but YMMV as the developer says it’s alpha software.
That’s been one of the biggest drawbacks for me personally. Who wants to go through collecting all of these communities, just to have the server crash and be forced to re-collect on a different instance? It’s very cumbersome, right now, and I hope that eventually it can be a bit more seamless somehow.
There are tools available to migrate accounts, like this one for example: https://github.com/wescode/lemmy_migrate
But it has some limitations like your private messages will not be transferred. Also, I never tried this so don’t complain to me if something goes wrong :)
Use a different instance. That one is overloaded. Honestly I think they should close sign ups for a while.
