I had very low hopes for this, and it was orders of magnitude worse. I guess there’s some device that becomes relevant for the climactic scene, but who cares? I don’t even know who the audience is for this, because anyone into Star Trek isn’t gong to see much here to work with, and anyone not will be put off by the branding.
Sadly I suspect it had a lot to do with cutting the original women who were creating it out of their own project.
Not sure ‘cutting them’ is totally accurate.
The writing team and original creator/showrunner EPs Kim & Lippoldt were joined by a guy who had some showrunner experience. At the time, it sounded more like the Paramount suits weighed in on that as the show stayed in development hell even after an original greenlight.
But the fact is that when S31 got put on the back burner during the pandemic lockdown, Kim & Lippoldt took an offer from Netflix to take over as showrunners of ‘Sweet Tooth’.
They have been very successful with that. Paramount would be very fortunate to get them back to run anything.
I’m actually impressed they somehow managed to make star trek movies even worse. I’m not even sure anymore what it has to do with star trek, like the IP is basically dead if it weren’t for SNW.
Edit: Just watched Crouching tiger, hidden dragon. Now this is a proper movie!
I actually enjoyed S31 for what it is and am about to rewatch it today with my partner.
It’s campy, and full of action sequences and fights, but that was to be expected with MU Georgiou.
It’s relatively rich in plot and characterization when I compare it to the run of current action movies like ‘The Grey Man’ on Netflix.
And it’s soooo much better than Star Trek V ‘The Final Frontier’.
How anyone can talk about the movies failing now clearly had rose coloured glasses on while watching:
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Kirk’s death in ‘Generations’
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the completely boring, Patrick Stewart indulgent dune buggy sequence in ‘Nemesis’ followed by the offensive rape content with stoic and sarcastic Troi turned into a tearful, dependant mess
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‘Into Darkness’
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the destruction of the Enterprise, ridiculous motorcycle stored on bridge and motorcycle action sequence in ‘Beyond’
We can certainly accept other failures in the franchise as well as this one. I’ll just link Shives.
Well, I just rewatched it and enjoyed it all the more the second time.
My partner saw it for the first time, really enjoyed it, laughing the way through - with an overall rating of 7.5.
Like my partner, I’m an old thing.
I have watched absolutely everything Trek in first run since 1966 so I don’t have a lot of patience with those who became fans in the Berman era and feel entitled to gatekeep or define what isn’t Trek or isn’t ‘good’ for the next generation
I actively kept TOS fans from booing down young TNG fans trying to speak up at the cons in the late 1980s and early 1990s. These YouTubers are cut from the same mould but unfortunately have a much bigger public than the toxic TOS fans did on Usenet or subscription mimeod fanzines.
What is this? Some kinda Oceans 31 Squad?
