85 points

“The hackers gained initial access using a stolen account credential that lacked multi-factor authentication security, according to UnitedHealth.”

Absolutely unacceptable. I might be easier to forgive them if some zero day was used, but that’s so easily preventable.

That account presumably had some level of privileges, the policy should have been to enforce MFA, and if the account was inactive, disable it until the user needs it at which point set up MFA again.

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39 points

They will not be held accountable for this and then people wonder why pedons think Luigi did nothing wrong lol

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22 points

190 Million person class action.

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47 points

In 8 years you’ll get a visa gift card with 12 cents on it

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6 points

Well they make, what, 80 Billion a year? So 80B/190M = $421 each? Plus we’d fuck them over? Hey, we got nothing better to do but get sick and die.

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83 points
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There is no profit in securing customer data and there is no drawback for the company when data breaches occur. Without regulation, there will never be motivation for companies to give a shit.

They will apologize like Old navy does every few years for sweatshops, claim they really care and promise to improve (they won’t).

What the apology really means?

“Enjoy your free year of credit monitoring and fuck off.”

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16 points

It’s literally this. I worked software for a financial company and we were considered a cost center. It showed in how they cut corners.

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On the contrary to drawbacks, it benefits some companies to leak data when partnerships between corporations are made based on data swaps. And the first person to snitch on this practice gets whacked, apparently.

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12 points

If the US didn’t have idiots for voters we would have a healthy balanced political system and these breaches would come with mandatory jail time for the execs.

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Blaming voters for elites ruling us is kinda off IMHO

After owners killed JFK, we have been in boiled frog scenario.

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You have the same information available to you as everyone else. Yet I’m guessing you have a different stance on the issue than the “idiots”? How is that? I’m assuming you aren’t any richer than them, smarter, or connected.

So if you can come to a rational conclusion on matters what is the excuse of other people? There’s likely not anything particular special about you that made you an exception from the masses.

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Then let us proceed down the “Oh it’s not in my control and therefore not my fault as a voter” trail because it’s done us fuck all any good.

I’d prefer to review where there were options ignored though.

General Trend in Primaries: Over the past decade, nearly 80% of eligible voters consistently did not participate in primaries, highlighting a persistent problem with voter engagement in these crucial election. (https://bipartisanpolicy.org/press-release/voters-dont-participate-primaries/)

While a specific number isn’t universally accepted as “healthy,” the data suggests that aiming for turnout rates above 60-65% could be beneficial for both democratic engagement and public health outcomes. However, it’s important to note that the quality of civic participation and the inclusivity of voting policies are also crucial factors in assessing the health of a democracy, not just the turnout percentage alone. (https://democracyindex.hdhp.us/)

2018 California Gov Primary: The turnout rate of 33.7% was the highest for a midterm primary election in California since 1998. The primary featured a large field of candidates, with 27 individuals appearing on the ballot across various parties. Despite a constellation of choice, voters still went with status quo. (https://www.courthousenews.com/california-2018-midterm-primary-turnout-highest-in-2-decades/) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_California_gubernatorial_election)

2022 Idaho Gubernatorial Election: The turnout was 57.18%, a slight decrease from the previous election. Despite having five candidates on the ballot, including an independent candidate who received significant support, incumbent Republican Brad Little won re-election with 59.83% of the vote. This shows voters sticking with the status quo even with notable alternatives. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_United_States_gubernatorial_elections)

2013 New York City Mayoral Election: 15 candidates appeared on the ballot across various parties. Turnout was relatively low, with only 1,087,710 total votes cast. Despite the large number of candidates, Bill de Blasio won decisively with 73.15% of the vote. The second-place candidate, Joe Lhota, received only 24.31% of the vote. Third-party and independent candidates collectively received less than 3% of the vote. Status quo upheld. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_mayoral_elections)

2022 Los Angeles Mayoral Election: Primary election had 12 candidates on the ballot. Top two candidates advanced to the general election. Karen Bass won with 54.82% of the vote (506,372 votes) / Rick Caruso received 45.18% (417,375 votes). Despite a large field of candidates in the primary, voters ultimately chose between two well-known figures in the runoff. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Los_Angeles_mayoral_election)

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Jesse Welles - United Health

There ain’t no “You”, in UnitedHealth

There ain’t no “Me”, in the company

There ain’t no “Us” in the private trust

There’s hardly humans in humanity

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4 points

CEOs come and go and one just went

The ingredients you got bake the cake that you get

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10 points

I wonder if they are going to mail their customers a notice of this. I’ve seen nothing but a asshole sticking survey that barely let you criticize them. I tried my hardest.

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9 points

I got notified of it in the first quarter of last year.

I had already switched insurances because all my providers stopped accepting UHC because THEY WEREN’T PAYING THE FUCKING PROVIDERS

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3 points

6-8 months before they even start processing claims. MetLife is the same.

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1 point

Kaiser has best payout rates and I think they are a non profit.

I am not sure if they are actually better but if we going by this metric they are top.

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3 points

I’ve never been a UMH customer, but about 7 months after the breach happened (November), I got a letter from the company handling customer complaints for Change Healthcare, telling me an unbeknown amount of my medical and or financial information was leaked to unknown parties via some unknown method. If I had questions, I could call the company handling customer complaints.
When I called to ask how Change came to be in possession of my medical data, that they then lost, and subsequently failed to inform me of the situation within my state’s statutory notification window for having your data hacked, the representative told me they didn’t know, and would not be able to find out what company had entrusted them with my data.

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I just went back online, no secure messages. Nothing. I don’t know if NY has any laws to help me but i will be calling today. I’m bored and i feel like being a major PITA to them. I have some good friends whose parents are retired lawyers and they love giving me questions to ask.

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