Shredding alive for… Eggs? 🤔
Edit: appreciate the replies! I actually already knew that, I think the verbage just threw me off. Poor chickies
Is true I think. Overstated a bit possibly?
IDK I don’t work on a farm etc
Overstated how? Worldwide, around 7 billion male chicks are culled each year in the egg industry.
Quick tip for everyone: if you have no idea, don’t present something as fact!
The person you’re replying to didn’t present anything as a fact they asked a question
Basically, male chicks are worthless on egg farms. They all get put into a macerator to be disposed of. The rate at which they do this is unfathomable at a single farm alone.
Yeah, but the fetus can eventually be used for slave labor, including the production of more slaves. The male chicks are more useful being shredded for cheap slave fodder. If we generate enough value for our masters in this way, they’ll let us join them. Blessed be the fruit.
be used for slave labor, including the production of more slaves.
That’s the theory they had. Turns out humans don’t breed that well in captivity. In practice the birth rate keeps dropping and is now way below replacement rates.
Turns out humans don’t breed that well in captivity.
Depends on how broad your definition of captivity is 🤷
In terms of economic system, they got us by the balls and are squeezing hard.
I know you’re going for the joke, but it’s way to close to why a lot of these people want to outlaw reproductive healthcare.
In reality, humans have more children in bad circumstances, and less when we’re educated, have life options, don’t need children to work as labor for the family, don’t need them to provide for us when we get old, and have confidence that they’ll survive.
In bad times we have a lot of children for better odds and more hands to do work, and in good times we have fewer to concentrate our resources on.
It’s why they want to ban reproductive healthcare and tank the economy: in 20 years there’ll be a wave of economic demand and labor supply. That the individual will be broke, have no future, and no education is irrelevant.
In bad times we have a lot of children for better odds and more hands to do work,
That used to be true until children were not allowed to work anymore. They’re quietly trying to roll that child labor of course.
in 20 years there’ll be a wave of economic demand and labor supply.
By that time, people are competing against humanoid robots and office AI to see who can do the job the cheapest. Humans are in the end not going to win that race. Robots and AI are a bit silly now but are getting better and cheaper quickly. There will buy a lot of labor supply, but with most people in a trailer park trash existence there won’t be that much demand.
While I absolutely agree with the sentiment here, I doubt it’d convince anyone remotely “pro-life” - because one’s “just a chicken”, and the other’s human.
I mean Christ, if you can’t get them to sympathise with the life carrying the fetus, you’re not gonna succeed with a random chicken’s.
Yeah, I get the impression that the thing that drives most pro-lifers is religion (or their twisted interpretation thereof), not compassion. And as far as I’m aware, their religion doesn’t consider animals to even have souls but rather sees them as tools for humankind to use, provided to us.
Unless you account for them thinking of the carrier as just that. A means to an end.
Which is what it’s about. It’s 100% about controlling and punishing women. Everyone’s posting that Satre quote about anti-semites, but not understanding that it’s always applied to this debate too. A pro-life position motivated by tender feelings about embryos is rare; it is that pregnancy gives men power over women. (Weren’t some of the Southern states suing the government due to falling birth rates because teenage mothers are becoming rare? Teenage pregnancy is the way to control the entire course of a women’s life.)
Laws preventing all forms of chick culling exist in Germany, France, and Luxembourg. Switzerland and Austria forbid shredding but allowing gasing male chicks (Austrians really love their gas chambers). There are ongoing discussions about forbidding the practice in most of Western Europe (AFAIK only the UK doesn’t have ongoing discussions).
Austrians really love their gas chambers
They’re like Alabama, Arizona, California, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, and Wyoming in that aspect.
Technically, California hasn’t used that method of execution since 1993, but that’s still a lot more recent than your Austrian with the funny moustache 🤷
Is that really a good thing for the animals though? Instead of being killed right away, they will suffer a short miserable life, then be killed.
Ideally, these male chicks could be taken to an animal sanctuaries. With the scale of the industry and the rarity of farmed animal sanctuaries, it wouldn’t be possible for all of them. For the ones that can be rescued, life on a sanctuary is much better than in the wild or on a farm in a dark shed.
I think one of the problems is that you basically can’t keep many roosters together (I’m not even sure you can keep two roosters together). That means that for a sanctuary you need huge space so that the roosters don’t kill each other. So while I also buy eggs that guarantee that the male chicks will be raised, I wonder how this is supposed to work if I pay only like 50 cents per egg and half of the hatched eggs are male.
(Note that my knowledge on rooster farming comes from a German or possibly German-French documentary on that, so I might be talking out of my ass here.)
(I think I just remember that 2€/egg was the price calculated in the documentary for ethical farming without losses for the farmers. This was some years ago. To be fair - I’d totally pay that for an egg. Egg as an ingredient can be easily substituted and as a standalone dish it can be something special that I’m willing to pay for. )
Problematic fact: Animal rights implies the existence of animal wrongs.
Do you also think feathers can’t be dark because feathers are light?
https://study.com/academy/lesson/equivocation-fallacy-definition-examples.html
Huh? It’s a joke.
