After USB-C win, EU tells Tim Cook that Apple must ‘open up its gates to competitors’.::The iPhone 15 has USB-C, a move largely due to impending legislation in the European Union requiring smartphones and other…

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Finally someone is fighting those companies that take advantage of controlling the platforms.

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good.

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Can’t happen soon enough. Personally, I’d wish this would go much further and would allow every device to be flashable, with only a few exceptions for safety, like cars.

There’s also a certain irony that certain other places will go to bat for right to repair, and then turn around and say “Actually, I want to live in a walled garden.”, not realizing that these are two sides of the same coin.

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with only a few exceptions for safety, like cars.

No. There are three main bullshit arguments being used by lobbyists actively making the world a worse place by fighting against this type of legislation.

  • safety and security
  • intellectual propery rights
  • hindering innovation

All three are demonstrably used in hearings to convince legislators to not sign right to repair bills into law. And all three are absolute bullshit.

Replacing the brakes on your own car is not generally seen as introducing safety risks, so why would software be any different? The only things that actually make cars safe are competent drivers (wether flesh and bone, or digital) and proper manufacturing (so no malfunctioning during use).

There is a reason full self driving is not legal in most places worldwide, and likely won’t be for a very long time. We’ve seen too many examples of software fuck ups and the legal responsibility in case of an accident is still a difficult part of the equation.

If we’re able to integrate full infotainment systems into cars, and all kinds of AI gadgets for driving assistance. We should be able to make cars safer even if the software is user servicable.

No more gatekeeping bullshit.

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Good point.

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Add newline between line 1 and 2

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TIL, thank you. Edit has been made.

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with only a few exceptions for safety, like cars.

Safety means extra-flashable.

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Yeah man, can’t wait to be sharing the road with people running custom ROMs on their 2 ton death machine. People are well known for being responsible in situations like that.

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Quite frankly why the hell should I trust any publicly traded automaker to flash quality software?

Some of them have a track record for quantifying the cost of fixing an issue versus cost of settling lawsuits for that unfixed issue killing people.

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because roadways are so safe and free from accidents as is.

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People do already. It’s called tuning. I drove a car I custom tuned myself for 3 years…

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Skill issue?

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Beyond pure principle, flashing would be very useful when it comes to extending the lifecycle of the device beyond its original purpose. They’re quite powerful and could be turned into a small server for example, similar to a Raspberry Pi. While lacking in ports, they do come with a battery, wifi+cellular and multiple cameras already built in.

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Exactly. My Android phones as they slow, I swap to lineage OS and they’re butter smooth and fast again. None of that planned obsolescence nonsense. Showing what a scam it is.

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Good for people who decide to adopt Android or an open source OS after having an iPhone for a while. Would help get some more traction for alternatives too like Ubuntu Touch.

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I would love an iPad Mini running android. Theres basically no high end android tablet in that size factor, but I won’t use fucking IOS just to get my favo form factor. iOS is so neutered and unpractical in comparison to android. It’s so weird that iOS became so popular to me… It’s still stuck 10y ago in like 90% of its os design ideas.

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iOS is so neutered and unpractical in comparison to android. It’s so weird that iOS became so popular to me… It’s still stuck 10y ago in like 90% of its os design ideas.

Exactly!!! Most people don’t get any of this and will instead claim android and iOS are practically the same thing

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What’s the point in letting corporations act like they own things we already paid hundreds of dollars for?

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How about Apple laptops next, including specs to write drivers.

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Also how about not forcing everybody to use Apple hardware to compile their apps? How about allowing xcode competititors and running on different hardware? Allowing to emulate macos/ios?
Fuck apple.

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Also how about not forcing everybody to use Apple hardware to compile their apps?

It’s a thing? Can’t you just gcc binary into existence?

Fuck apple.

Fuck Putin. Fuck apple too.

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In principle you can, the Mach-O format is openly documented and implemented in the major compilers. The issue is that you need a sysroot (aka SDK) of the frameworks and headers for your target OS, which in Apple’s case are proprietary and cannot be redistributed legally (you could probably rip them out of a macOS installation yourself though). For iOS apps you’d also need to sign the binaries and install the app to the device which is non-trivial to impossible to do on other platforms.

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Xcode is such hot garbage, the UX Is what you get when you like pretty and hate your programmer. (Honestly I hate most of Apple’s UX.)

Also I compiled a C# app for osx-x64 yesterday on Linux (that works, though I have no idea of I could sign it properly to avoid Apple’s annoying side load interference), though maybe it included a binary originally compiled by Microsoft on Apple hardware.

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including specs to write drivers.

Whoa, that’s super strong move. I 100% support it. Sadly, I’m not in EU. Faust bless EU, they have really big potatoes.

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I mean first you have to get politicians to understand what the hell a “driver” is, and no, Gretchen, it’s not Uber.

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Lucky for you they would be super unlikely to change the hardware so much that you wouldn’t benefit from “European” drivers in another region.

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I mean I can’t vote it into existence

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They might do some geoblock fuckery, eg. the drivers would only work with the EU-market devices

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I would love to see the looks on the Apple execs’ faces when they learn news like this. Those greedy cunts must get a rage boner every time they’re forced to act like decent world citizens

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Honestly, so long as people keep buying their phones they really don’t care about this kind of stuff. Sure, it was a way to drive up margins for a while, but they will just move onto their next bag of tricks to make it hard to leave.

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