Summary

Trump plans to impose tariffs of up to 100% on semiconductors manufactured in Taiwan, aiming to push U.S. tech companies like Apple, Nvidia, and AMD to produce chips domestically.

The tariffs target Taiwan’s TSMC, a key supplier, despite its partial U.S. production in Arizona.

Trump criticized Biden’s CHIPS Act for funding companies like Intel and proposed tariffs as an alternative incentive.

Experts warn the move could raise prices for electronics as most TSMC chips are assembled in Asia before export to the U.S.

140 points

This is so silly.

Trump: I’m going to put a 100% tariff on your goods if you don’t start building them here.

TSMC: Yeah, we’re doing just that next year. We’re already fabbing them there in the US.

2026 rolls around and the final part of TSMZ in AZ is complete

Trump: I’m such a fucking genius.

And Republicans will eat this shit up.

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10 points

Why do you think he decided to do it?

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118 points

This dumb motherfucker is going to make our missiles twice as expensive.

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29 points

Good think I didn’t throw out all those discrete transistors, we’re in for a loooot of soldering

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21 points

Half of his actions in the past week, especially in the past couple of days, have done things to weaken the U.S. military. It can’t all be accidental. There’s too much.

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2 points

Most of his orders have boiled down to “report to the President in X weeks” the biggest one is probably the transgender ban. Which, while it sucks, isn’t going to affect enough service members to meaningfully impact the military. So there’s a lot of virtue signaling but not much movement in the EOs for the military.

The biggest actual thing has been interrupting the training cycles of the light infantry divisions with Warning Orders for a large deployment to the Southern Border. He managed to interrupt the 101st, 10th, and 82nd. Which is ridiculously bad management.

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3 points

Sure, nothing has happened yet, but I think you need to look at all the cuts that are planned. Not just weapons systems and ships, although those are on the chopping block, but also commissaries and even on-base schools.

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1 point

To be fair, this was Bidens idea, and the plants are already being finished in the US. Trump just wants to take credit for it.

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8 points

Biden was not going to tariff Taiwan. His idea was to incentivize Taiwanese chip manufacturing to create an American manufacturing capability. That capability is not fully online and won’t be for years. This is a different policy.

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88 points

TSMC opened a factory in Arizona, so it’s really a big f u to the people of Taiwan while the owners of tsmc are good to go.

I get the bring jobs to the US bit, but the cost will be passed on to consumers and the whole market will shrink. There are existing chip fab facilities in the US, maybe efforts should focus on why they can’t compete instead of reducing demand for electronics inside the US.

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57 points

Chips can’t even be fully produced here. You can make the chip here, but the packaging and some other things need to happen in Taiwan still. Until they get that goin the fab in the US is almost useless.

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49 points

Not to mention all the really cool machines that make the chips are made in Europe

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23 points

It’s almost like we are in a global economy!

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23 points

The breadth of products and industries this will touch is going to be massive. Even if you’re not buying electronics from a company, those companies still have to buy and replace their own electronics to operate which, if those prices go up, it raises operating costs. Your cheeseburger can get a bit pricier because of this.

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2 points

Everything has a microcontroller anymore.

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1 point

keep yer microchips out of my cheeseburgers!

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2 points

I read somewhere that the Taiwan government doesn’t allow advanced chip technology knowledge be used in the US factory?..

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2 points

Photolithography itself was invented in the US a while ago, but the company that perfect the manufacturing process that is used for modern chips is in either Belgium or Denmark iirc. That company just leases its machines to TSMC so it’s entirely possible they could just move the machines to the USA. But that’s my surface level understanding, I don’t know for sure.

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2 points

Netherlands, with key components (precision lenses) made in Germany. None of this could be made in the US in reasonable time.

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2 points

I mean, it is their one real bargaining chip to make sure the US keeps standing between them and China. They are teaching us some of it though, and we’ve been building fabs to make them here in the US for years. Biden got that ball rolling.

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77 points

Yet another tariff that is somehow magically against an American ally and not against Russia or China.

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10 points

The US allies also need to get their hands on the pee tape or whatever the US enemies have in their hands…

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13 points

Is there really anything anyone could use to blackmail trump? There could be a video of him eating a baby alive and a third of the country would still support him, and another third of the country wouldn’t even notice.

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6 points
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It’s sad but any sort of gay sex would tear his base, so there’s still that.

Insert joke about gay sex tearing one’s base

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1 point

Is there really anything anyone could use to blackmail trump?

No. The “pee pee tape” joke has been obsolete for a long time now.

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50 points

It’s pretty funny how this is an attack that could backfire extremely.

Almost all of the advanced chips are made using ASML EUV machines. Which is a Dutch company.

If Trump continues on this path of self-destruction, attacking countries and companies around the world, the US might just end up with sub-par chip production like China has. (They have old ASML machines and aren’t getting any new ones). TSMC is one of the biggest partners of ASML and has a LOT of cards to play to get ASML to not supply any machines to the US.

It’s absolutely horrid that a boy like Trump has any power and doesn’t even know that his attacks are nothing more than a punch to his own balls. A normal politician would work on alliances to get chip production going in the US before fucking over all the companies relying on chips. Stuff like subsidies for local chip production are not news worthy enough for him to get any kick out of so he just flexes his power.

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It’s an “attack” that Biden had the idea for first. We’ve been working on it for a couple years now already, and the plants are already being built in the US. Nobody thinks of it as an attack.

But.

It’s not working out, because the Taiwanese teaching us how to do it think we’re all lazy, and the Americans learning think the Taiwanese are slave drivers.

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21 points

Biden did not “attack” TSMC, he developed a plan to bring chip Manufacturing to the US. Orange man’s attack, an actual economic attack, has no actual plan. These attacks will send industries into free fall and he’ll pull the trigger flippantly, right now (the moment when he thinks he has just an idea of his own), long before the market will be able to correct and without taking any steps to mitigate a disaster. Maybe reactive half measures later, but disaster will happen all the same.

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I know Biden didn’t attack TSMC, hence the quotation marks around the word.

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It’s not working out, because the Taiwanese teaching us how to do it think we’re all lazy, and the Americans learning think the Taiwanese are slave drivers.

I’m choosing to believe this partly because on my own preconceived notions, but mostly because it’s funny.

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