I love the basketball court noises in Saruman’s sanctum, like the wizards are going mano-a-mano in their best Air Jordans.
Are we talking movies or books?
I recently watched the hobbit extended editions and it has good moments, but it doesn’t carry the spirit of the LoTR movies.
I never really saw the bonds build up much, and the corruption of Thorin was too sudden, as well as his redemption.
It felt like it was going more for action vibes than that slow pace of pushing against the unfathomable together.
The Hobbit book is excellent, I read it several times as a kid and loved stuff like defeating the trolls.
In the movie gandalf reveals the sun to the trolls which I think takes away the spirit of bilbo’s trick.
Thorin just immediately going “fuck this hobbit dude” was so jarring and cliché. I looked up Azog just now to double check and apparently this fucker died ONE-HUNDRED-AND-FIFTY YEARS before the Battle of Five Armies?! But his son was there and they could have used Bolg?! Also they completely removed Bilbo’s role in defeating the trolls and just had Gandalf save them by breaking a rock?
The Hobbit is the only book I’ve read more than once and yet I won’t even watch the second or third movie and that makes me, honestly, kinda sad. But I still have the book, and that’s a happy thought.
Yeah
It took watching the extended edition to get an explanation of why the orcs are different. There still are practical effect orcs, but the CGI orcs are not comparable, they don’t feel real the way the OG movies make them feel. The lead Uruk-hai for example felt real, but also huge and badass and threatening. Azog just felt flat and plain to me.
I could be wrong, I’ve only read the book this once. But in the book, wasn’t it Gandalf who tricked the trolls? Bilbo hears a voice several times that sounds like the trolls, and the trolls mistake the voice for their own multiple times, and afterwards it’s revealed that it’s Gandalf’s voice
You could be right, maybe I have to rerread it some I haven’t in many years
I’m nearly done reading it for the first time. If memory serves, Bilbo attempts to be a sneaky burglar for the first time with the trolls, but accomplishes nothing besides getting himself captured, and the dwarves bagged when they tried saving him. While he’s laying in a bush, Gandalf does the voice trick, and reveals himself with the “the dawn will take you all!”
In the movie, Bilbo wastes their time by making pointless cooking suggestions, until the sun comes up just enough for Gandalf to break the rock and do the “dawn take you all” bit. Thorin complains to Gandalf that Bilbo got them captured in the first place, but Gandalf commends Bilbo for having “the nous to beg for time”.
So the movie actually moves the accomplishment from Gandalf to Bilbo
Just get yourslef one of the fanedits and enjoy a much improved film. I recommend the M4 book edit. Sticks to the book as close as possible.
I think if you just search for it one of the results should be the website and you can download it from there.
Should be this one link
The Books are all good. But the movies? From the first LotR to the last Hobbit Movie it was a long way down. From near perfection (Fellowship of the Ring), passing quite cool (Return to the King) and uncomfortable (Hobbit 1) to “Please have mercy with my soul and turn this off” (Hobbit 3)
The books are great.
I will never forgive The Hobbit movie for their part in the union busting of the New Zealand version of SAG/AFTRA
