Neo-Liberalism: Let’s hire anyone from anywhere, just the best candidates no matter what, no other values but who we can extract the most value from. Let’s also take money from the government and lobby them to defund themselves and the country’s services to give us even more money.
Oh wow! How does China steal our tech?! Why wasn’t the government funding education and security to protect us?!?
Its only Ignorance if it comes from the Ignoramus region of France. Otherwise its just called sparkling stupidity.
deepseek is not stolen tech, it was trained using novel innovations that western companies were not doing
I thought the innovative part was using more efficient code, not what it’s trained on.
That’s what they said basically.
Like. You can compile better or more diverse datasets to train a model on. But you can also have better code training on the same dataset.
The model is what the code poops out after its eaten the dataset I haven’t read the paper so no idea if the better training had to do with some super unique spin on their dataset but I’m assuming its better code.
@deranger @theunknownmuncher the US trying to stifle Chinese progress/stop chip exports has had exactly what anyone could see. China is making leaps and bounds in all sorts of tech areas, innovating around obstacles
https://arxiv.org/abs/2405.20304 they invented their own reinforcement learning framework called Group Relative Policy Optimization
EDIT: deepseek publicly released and published the model and methods to the global community, and there is now an open effort by researchers to reproduce them https://github.com/huggingface/open-r1 it is like the opposite of stealing
This is the third time I’ve seen this exact image used in relation to this. First was a YouTube video, second was a mastodon post, and now this. Not sure who started it, but I feel it’s kinda racist and just shitty. I get the reference, but it’s nothing more than “haha, asian guy that was on computer stuff show”.
His character tried to make cheap Chinese knockoffs of all major platforms and products.
Deep dive is a cheap Chinese knockoff of ChatGPT.
It’s a good joke, Bront
It’s not really a cheap knockoff though, it’s a revolution in efficiency. It proved that you don’t need $100m to beat the best models if you show a bit of ingenuity
It’s like building a boat to cross a lake when everyone around you is trying to use their car by adding tires to increase buoyancy (nvidia are the ones selling tires)
Why do you people get offended on our behalf for even the most minuscule thing. What’s racist about it? On the contrary, it’s fucking awesome that some Chinese manage to do this with a meager sum in such time. Why would I want people to use a non Asian person to represent an Asian guy?
What’s racist about it?
It’s because people the meme states that DeepSeek didn’t accomplish anything novel. That the real innovation was done in America with ChatGPT. And there is a narrative that the Chinese are not original, but only really good at copying other people’s work often using inferior parts. That last part, while not explicit in the meme, is in the culture.
My understanding is that what DeepSeek did was novel for the training data it used l. However, there are some experts who question the ability to train the model using the limited budget they claimed and their understanding of the field would require far more processing power. I think there’s a non-racist and racist way of interpreting and answering this question.
Edit: it’s also important that this is a shit post.
You can decide if this post is racist or not. https://lemmy.ml/post/25316007
Saying company A copied company B isn’t racist. Those clsims are made all the time. This is really digging to make it racist.
my taking offense isn’t even because of the race mostly. it’s because they are saying it’s a clone of o1. Of which it is not. That’s some very good development that’s been done and open sourced so anyone can use it for free which is being overshadowed by the fact that it happened in China and not 'murica
fuck altman! like he cloned and boiled down everyone elses knowledge to his stupid llm. just a google figured out a while back: everyone can always make a better AI. just drop your grandmas cooking receipes in there and bam you’ve got the bigger dataset.
americas bitchin and wining is so maga. can they maybe just shut up or dumb down to orange? the orange said “i see it as an asset” - go watch the imbecile in his pressconference on monday. dumbo thinks a chinese corpo that killed 1tn $ is an asset to him.
we all just can praise deepseek for proving once again that most americans are below 3rd graders.
“Ok, if I decide to do this, I’ll need an unlimited supply of Xena tapes and Hot Pockets.”
You’re telling me a country that could give a flying fuck about international patent law copied and replicated something? Say it ain’t so.
