120 points

Positives … Good AI features

Negatives … No 4K recording on all lenses

Some people just have different priorities.

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If I’m paying $900 for a phone, you’d better believe that 4K30 is the barest of bare minimums I’m expecting that rear camera to do unless it’s a deliberate tradeoff for something more ethical like a Fairphone. The Pixel 9 base model can shoot at 4K60 and 1080p240 (256 GB and the same $900 price). “Good AI features” lmfao blow it out your ass, Asus. I wonder where this comparison chart is coming from anyway.

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28 points
  • shove it up your asus
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16 points

My priority would be longevity, ports and an open bootloader.

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+ good custom rom support.

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My 2022 iPhone SE, that I bought new for about $550, records 4K at 60fps.

I’m a little shocked that isn’t the base standard for all smartphones now.

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I don’t care about camera quality at all, I much prefer longevity, performancd, ports, other sensors, custom ROM and root support. And so, most smartphones of manufacturers chasing the trend of camera quality, especially if they are 1k+, are not fit for me.

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There are Samsung A-Series phones that support 4k @30fps

Galaxy A25 is about $299 and has 6.5 inch 1080p 120hz display, records at 4K @30fps

Galaxy A35 is about $100 more than the above, and along with the above mentioned, also has IP67 water resistance hand under-display fingerprint sensor

Cheap phones are getting so good these days

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I hate that they lumped the “AI” features into one.

Like… I love AI up scaling, but AI assistants can f*** off.

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Yeah. AI and quality of video recording is just not high on the list for me.

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95 points

Gsmarena is a better site to use for comparison of technical specs, if you care about those.

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I was wondering when someone would say this. It’s the only site I use to research phones.

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They are quite exceptionally good and I really wish other consumers products had a website like that one with as much trust as that one.

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7 points

I feel like this should probably be top comment here

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I also use phonearena as a secondary. No idea if the two are related.

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84 points

how is “ultra-portable” a positive, when all these phone are the same size, and not even small phones at all?

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Yeah, these pro/con lists are just random bullshit with 0 accountability and consistency.

The only useful comparisons are ones that show the actual specs side by side, and even then it doesn’t tell the whole story.

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I looked it up and the ROG phone 8 pro isn’t even smaller or lighter than the other two - if anything it’s slightly bigger and heavier. Truly useless as a positive point.

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Just finished setting up my Xperia Z2 Compact with Lineage OS. It is such a relief to have a truly compact phone again

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Same way "Confusing Charging Situation " is a thing when they all charge the same way, plus minus wireless but the pixel can do both, unless that is what is confusing.

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55 points

The pixel, so you can put graphene on it

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Is graphene less glitchy than stock on a pixel 8? Or at least no worse? I’m tired of unfixed glitches since the pixel 6. YouTube PIP and split screen specifically

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It doesn’t aim to make enhancements beyond privacy/security specific ones. In that sense it’s more likely to give you issues with certain apps because of things like sandboxed Play services and apps not having access to the device identifier.

That said, I use it and if you’re OK with giving up certain things like Google Pay, then I recommend it.

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To add to that, most of the time there are easy work arounds like just using the apps browser version instead of an app. The only thing I’ve had a couple times was my keyboards just wouldn’t pop up. No matter what I did the keyboards were dead for about 3 minutes each time it happened, they started to work again but it’s just a quirk of a privacy focused OS

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Fairphone 5

positives:

  • nicely built
  • user servicable with replaceable components
  • no AI shit
  • eco friendly
  • 8 years of service updates

negatives:

  • its a bit more expensive for its specs
  • cameras are a bit on the downlow but still good enough
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The SECOND Fairphone starts shipping to Canada, I’ll buy one…

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You could probably still get one via a shipping forwarder

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Yea, I’ve looked at that. The issue is when I break it - and I always break my phones. I wouldn’t be able to quickly fix my phone because I’d need to order the parts via a shipping forwarder. I use my phone for work and going a couple of weeks without a device isn’t viable.

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Big +1 for Fairphone

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I got an FP5 just a few months ago, very happy. Currently running E-Os on it. Big upgrade on the FP3 that it replaced. Liked the 3 but it was getting way to slow. It’s not very expensive, considering it’s fairtrade!

The performance is perfect, and who can say no to support until 2031😃

Edit: the best feature of a Fairphone is the high horse it comes with😉

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You’re more morally superior to me in that regard.

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Edit: the best feature of a Fairphone is the high horse it comes with😉

Oh being smug/on the high horse about being woke, I like it :D

and yeah Support until 2031 is damn nice. After that period I probably will use PostmarketOS and turn it into a linux phone

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I feel like this phone should be good for most users. Most people don’t need to take super high quality photos or play demanding games on their phones.

Sure it costs a bit more per performance, but I think it is gonna be worth the price in the long run.

I have a FP4 that I plan to have until end of software support. I will likely have to get a new battery in the future, but that’s a breeze since it takes a minute to change and it is affordable, especially compared to many phones that are basically dead once the battery is bad.

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I have a FP4 that I plan to have until end of software support. I will likely have to get a new battery in the future, but that’s a breeze since it takes a minute to change and it is affordable, especially compared to many phones that are basically dead once the battery is bad.

Couldn’t you then install an alternative OS like lineage or /e/os or even PostmarketOS?

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Yes. I currently have /e/os on it. I dunno how long devices are kept up to date with that. But if any of the OSes are no longer maintained you can hopefully find one that is. So it’s possible it could last even longer than the official Fairphone android version.

I could however see that tech may change enough that a ~10 year old phone may need replacement regardless if you can buy replacement parts.

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I so badly wish the 5 was available in the US. The 4 is too much of a downgrade for me :/

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downlow

I do not think this word means what you think it means.

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Inconceivable!

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Question.

I’m seriously considering fairphone or anything similar (if it exists), for my next replacement.

They advertise two versions. One degoogled but £100 more.

How easy is it to just do it yourself? Is it just software?

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as I didn’t it myself yet I can’t tell you how easy it is. But it seems that in the case of /e/os you can use an installation programm (available for linux/windows/macos): https://doc.e.foundation/easy-installer (its also available for fp5: https://e.foundation/leaving-apple-easy-installer-is-now-available-for-fairphone-5/)

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Great recommendation!

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thanks for endorsing it :)

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i will wait for fairphone 6

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