Isn’t it weird how much harder it is for them to tip the scales on Lemmy and Mastodon, platforms without algorithms designed by right-wing billionaires?
WHAT? Are you implying that the rich used the advantage of closed black box algorithms to screw with peoples opinions, motivations and emotions for the goal of enriching themselves both financially and with power‽
Preposterous!/s
Kinda makes ya think… Maybe letting someone else filter the content you see is an inherently biased concept.
I’d rather apply my own biases to my feed, tyvm.
Bias is always present in this type of thing, the critical difference is honesty, openness, freedom to dissent (in theory and in practicality) and integrity of which big tech companies do not even possess a homeopathic amount.
Same story with trust for that matter…
There’s also the fact that the ‘left-wing’ has constant infighting… about how to help people, whereas the ‘right-wing’ are (mostly) single issue voters who don’t care what the other conservatives do so long as they get their thing. So a left-wing ‘echo chamber’ is kind of amusing when you try to imagine a Social Democrat and an Anarchist tacitly agreeing to almost anything.
Is there bias? Sure. What exactly that constitutes seems, to me at least, to be ‘I don’t think people should be in camps/have their rights removed/lose bodily autonomy, or that governments should spend more subsidizing oil and gas than all other areas.’
To be fair, it took a huge Reddit exodus for Lemmy to stop being full-blown work camp supporting communist. I’m sure if enough to right wing trolls showed up, this place would change again too
Hey it isn’t nice to beat up people who only want to seriously hurt and maim you, your family and your friends.
What happened to tolerance is quite clear, to the point that it has a name, it is called the paradox of tolerance.
We should keep them all trapped on twitter forever.
It’s a good containment zone for the trash.
If you see someone supporting Trump tell them to go back to twitter and block them
it stopped being about money a while ago, its literally a tool now, not a revenue source.
Or more accuratley, its a weapon, a weapon in the information war. being weilded by the Corpo-Oligarchs, the Fascists, the nazis, the Russian state, and whatever brain-worm is in Elon’s head on any given day. When Elon was forced to buy twitter, he obviously decided “fuck it, im going to use this to exert my will on the world then”. and then a year later, he was doing jumping jacks on stage for Trump rallies.
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Well, bluesky isn’t the fediverse, but the point stands.
Part of their marketing seems to be to create confusion about it. Bluesky uses the language and values of the fediverse to promote what is essentially another closed network. Meta is also doing this with Threads. Bluesky seems like a chill place and a lot of decent people seem to be very happy there, and they provide a lot more user controls than other networks, so the comic definitely still works.
It sort of depends on how you define fediverse. If you mean things using the ActivityPub protocol and are federated with Mastodon, Lemmy, etc. then no, it’s not part of the fediverse. If you mean anything using federated technology then you could possibly include it. https://docs.bsky.app/docs/advanced-guides/federation-architecture It uses something called AT instead of ActivityPub. I’m not personally aware of any other services or instances using it, but I also didn’t look very hard.
Edit: I learned that the term AT Protocol uses for their version of fediverse is “atmosphere”. So I wouldn’t necessarily say it’s part of the fediverse, but the context of the usage matters.
Right, but you can’t run your own instance so there’s nothing to federate with.
You’re correct. But blue sky does support federation, just not the same protocol as the fediverse, right?
BlueSky does not support federation in any way that we understand the word.
It is 100% reliant on the corporate server(s). They do offer a way to host your own data, which solves a singular problem with corporate media, which seems to be what they mean when they promote it “supporting federation.” Is also has an open codebase, which is something.
It’s not that these groups are full of true liberals, it’s that much of the population isn’t tolerant of lies and misinformation. So it seems that “conservatives” are being targeted.
I’ve seen people be objectively correct but assholes with their delivery and get fucking blasted on here. Regardless of politics I’d youre a prick you get vibe checked.
As it should be. I’m tired of lying and “alternative facts” being the new normal.
Even correct and real facts delivered in an intentionally backhanded way can fuck off for all I care
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I’m still unreasonably salty about getting bodied into negatives after pointing out that the fusion research coming out of the National Ignition Facility is just nuclear weapons research. That’s what Laser Inertial Confinement is, it’s a very contained implosion bomb. Their role in the nuclear stewardship program is the first thing in their damn “about me” page. Gah. I wasn’t even (all that) rude about it, its just really hard for some people on here to accept that their understanding is flawed (myself very much included)
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I’m a person who likes to learn. When I find out I was mistaken on an issue and why, I sometimes feel briefly embarrassed for being wrong, but in the end I appreciate knowing more and like to share the truth with others. I feel like I can approach people from a place of familiarity, empathy, and compassion and help them understand something they did not before.
I feel like there’s a lot of people here who share that mindset, and when we see someone intentionally trying to manipulate others by knowingly spreading disinformation, the other, less-compassionate side of us shows up to the party.
The moment I heard “alternative facts” I knew it was pointless to even try and entertain these people anymore.
I instituted a rule about 6mo ago as an experiment: anyone who talks to me about politics must believe the 2020 election was legitimate. If you don’t, we have nothing to discuss. The gulf between us is too wide and your rejection of reality is too terminal to treat. Ever since starting discussions with that and ending it (when they say it was stolen) with “I’m sorry I just don’t think we can have a fruitful conversation” has been unbelievable for my mental health and blood pressure.
