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But don’t you know, talking about this is Russian propaganda. Look, listen to Trudeau, he says you shouldn’t talk about this and instead fight back against Russian propaganda without missing a beat in the same sentence as he’s apologising. https://youtu.be/ApEx_UOwJR8

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Look, listen to Trudeau, he says you shouldn’t talk about this

Was the video you linked to supposed to substantiate this claim?

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What do you feel the implication is when he says it’s important to push back against Russian propaganda when asked about applauding Nazis?

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That they didn’t know it was a Nazi, and that applauding him doesn’t change the fact that Russia is a terrorist state that is trying to invade the west through wars and propaganda.

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Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

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If you give a standing ovation to a nazi, you are a nazi.

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He wasn’t introduced as a nazi, none of those MP’s knew the truth about who they were standing for, and they wouldn’t have if they did. Somebody didn’t do background research, and old nazi never should have been anywhere near parliament. It’s incompetence all around.

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He was introduced as having fought the Russians during WW2, there’s literally only one option as to what side that leaves him on. Either parliament is completely devoid of the most basic history education, or they knew damn well what they were applauding.

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IIRC, he fought the Russians to protect Ukraine from their invasion. He had no other allegiance to Germany or Nazis. It was a “the enemy of my enemy is my ally” situation.

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So did Finland though, and they ended WW2 fighting the Germans.

Although Finland was significantly less “gas the Jews” than Ukraine was.

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That’s politics for you

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This shouldn’t be surprising given:

https://www.jta.org/1997/06/05/global/canada-knowingly-admitted-ss-members-after-world-war-ii

One of the ways of getting into Canada during the postwar period “was by showing the SS tattoo,” Canadian historian Irving Abella told “60 Minutes” interviewer Mike Wallace. “This proved that you were an anti-Communist.”

The Canadian government hasn’t really changed. Some high up government officials are the children and grandchildren of Nazi war criminals: https://www.google.com/amp/s/ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/chrystia-freelands-granddad-was-indeed-a-nazi-collaborator-so-much-for-russian-disinformation/wcm/11196169-fd23-4643-94b4-08039235c595/amp/

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Liberals always side with fascists over communists/socialists when push comes to shove.

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After Britain and France turned them down and did appeasement with the nazis

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Absolutely fucking not. Waffen-SS members are war criminals not hapless stooges.

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You are painting an overly simplified picture. Look up Günter Grass if you don’t believe me.

TLDR: He non forcefully signed up for the SS, although disagreeing with the Nazis. Later he became a nobel prize winning author and member of the famous Group 47. In his publications he tries to get people to think for themselves - not exactly nazi doctrine.

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No.

We should judge the ones who are left with extreme prejudice and they should desperately be explaining themselves and proving that they actually sabotaged the SS and Nazi empire from within, if they are to regain any humanity.

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We shouldn’t judge anyone with prejudice; that’s in the word. We must treat all people as humans; not doing that is a Nazi idea. We should treat signing up with the Nazis as evidence, and act accordingly to prevent Nazis from running around doing and saying Nazi things.

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Extreme prejudice has a specific meaning which I doubt you meant. With prejudice also has specific legal meanings. Probably best to avoid this terminology.

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That smells like heey out of the 750.000 killing psychopaths, there were that one not absolutely bad person so let’s not judge them too hastily.

SS scum should rot in a damp prison cell for 1.000 years and then another 1.000.

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Rotting away in a cell isnt harsh enough. Google what the us Soldiers found in Dachau after freeing the Camp. That shit is disgusting.

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If people only would read history books and actually think about what they read… Instead it seems, most people around here just take their education from inglorious bastards.

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Nazi apologia. It doesn’t matter how many books he wrote or how good they were.

Here’s how I read it: His Nazi past wasn’t discovered until after receiving literary awards, which was embarrassing to the literati, so they tried to whitewash him.

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Go and actually read about him! He was never proud of being an SS member, but never made a secret about it (hard to do as a POW of the Americans).

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That’s neither here nor there. The Canadian government’s complicity only implicates Canada and clears no one.

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