What’s great about this, and Stephen Fry is brilliant, is not that he’s absolving Musk, or that he’s criticizing Tesla, but that it is an argument likely leading to Elon Musk protesting,

‘No, my cars are good enough that I can be a Nazi!’

52 points

The cybertruck is exactly the sort of thing Nazis would come up with. It’s the King Tiger of trucks - impressive specs and appeals to insecure men, but way the fuck too big and designed for unrealistic situations instead of practical reality.

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It can’t realistically tow heavy loads cause the hitch breaks off, and it can’t travel far with heavy loads. Definitely not the king tiger of trucks.

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14 points

Wasn’t the king tiger notorious for breaking down constantly? Or was that a different German WW2 tank?

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Also dangerous for crews. Sherman tank crews had a 75% survival rating when their tank got bust. I think the tiger had an 80% death rate or something.

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4 points

Even up to present day conflict tanks breaking down or getting stuck can be a major loss of armor, especially during prolonged maneuvers.

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Difficult to make, too heavy to be effective, and iirc yeah, unreliable.

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4 points

That’s every one of those big German tanks everybody talks about. The ones they started the war with were pretty fine (limited by terrain, though).

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I, as of recently, live in a place where I actually see those things driving around (and a lot of other trucks). They look like children’s toys compared to the absolute monster fords and some other trucks (not to mention they really do age like milk from what I’ve seen). Some of these behemoths can’t even fit in a single parking spot, it’s kind of insane. One of those would be more deserving of this title I think (I don’t know cars so I can’t say any specific models I’m afraid)

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I think RAMs or similar win in that category by being as actively harmful as possible. And having the huge blindspot where you run over kids without noticing.

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Before King Tiger and Tiger they had a few very good tanks.

Just when T-34 (which were clearly superior to German tanks once some bugs were ironed out, different class even) production went out of control, Hitler started making more decisions involved in what kind of machines is going to be developed and built.

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Not apologizing and then immediately giving a speech to AfD about not being ashamed of “cultural purity” beg to differ. Either way, him being an actual Nazi is irrelevant. There are 2 options:

  1. He is an actual Nazi and believes in the ideology, which makes him a fucking Nazi. It should be noted that his grandfather was an extremely anti-semitic politician who moved to South Africa because he admired Apartheid…

  2. He did it as a troll. In which case, at a POTUS inauguration he decided to behave like a teenage boy as the richest man in the world and make light of something that saw 6 million Jews slaughtered and remains as a threat to the security of Jews around the world to this day. Which makes him a colossal piece of shit.

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22 points

¿Por que no los dos?

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I wonder where she is now…

Awww. She’s all grown up, and seemingly successful.

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there’s no real difference between a true believer nazi and one doing it as a bit. or one going along with it for profits. they’re all nazis.

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62 points

Let’s repeat it again kids. Elon Musk is a piece of shit

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So is Stephen Fry.

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Why? What did fry do?

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He said sexual abuse victims should grow up and stop feeling sorry for themselves.

He jumped on the "I’m a Jew " bandwagon, in order to deflect criticism of Israel’s actions in Gaza. This is after presenting as atheist for all of his public life.

Anti trans JK Rowling supporter.

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I don’t have full context, but he seems to be transphobic, or possibly trans exclusionary may be more accurate.

https://old.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1hi3opi/another_celeb_dissapointment_stephen_fry/

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He probably said something reasonable that they disagreed with 😄

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Is over 60 years old.

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-6 points

Wrong, but you do you.

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I think being a transphobe makes you a piece of shit, so you’re wrong actually. lol

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I quite like him on jeopardy

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If Elon isn’t a full-blown Nazi, he’s at minimum a Nazi sympathizer. His actions at the inauguration proved where his allegiances lie.

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Yeah, his alliances life with power, money, and people thinking he’s cool (narcissism). The racism and cruelty are just his personal side projects.

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1 point

Just like his grifts.

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27 points

I’d imagine Jeremy Clarkson might have said this on old top gear before he outed himself as a massive asshole.

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All Nazis are assholes Not all assholes are Nazis

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3 points

Before? What, in primary school?

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4 points

What did he do to out himself, out of curiosity?

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4 points

He punched a guy in 2015 over available food options, which got him fired from BBC. His popularity didn’t take that much of a hit from this incident despite him clearly being in the wrong (Hammond and May both left BBC with him and they started a new show The Grand Tour, which wasn’t as popular as Top Gear, but was still popular.

Then, in 2022, he wrote an opinion piece for the Sun about how much he hates Megan Merkle and included a bit where he said she should be paraded naked through the town. Amazon decided to not start any new projects with him after this, though they continued with the plans to wind down The Grand Tour which had already been established.

He’s got a farming show now, so he wasn’t cancelled over this, despite burning some bridges.

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Well that’s a pretty disgusting thing to say about someone. I don’t know what Merkle did to – in his view – deserve such comments, but I can’t imagine the comments were warranted.

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2 points

Nobody really remembers, it was so long ago.

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Then all’s well, I guess. Just like Hitler. Who was he? ANYWAY let’s get some froghurt…

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I think James May got there quicker. The first episode of his Cars Of The People miniseries explores (in part) the driving idea behind the Beetle and its origin, including its proceeds funding the Nazi war machine.

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