26 points

Can someone ELI5? He’s admitting it was never truly open? Or they were wrong for thinking open was good at all?

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OpenAI was started to be as open as possible, and to prevent the kinds of capitalism-driven Closed-AI development that they have now themselves become.

My personal opinion is that closed AI systems are only good if the owners are trustworthy. And in the long-run, no single owner can be trusted. There are risks with letting everyone copy and customize AI, however the worse danger is that the power gets too centralized with one single company.

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OpenAI was started to be as open as possible, and to prevent the kinds of capitalism-driven Closed-AI development that they have now themselves become.

No, that was what OpenAI said its goals originally were. They were lying. They always intended for it to become a capitalist venture. Anyone who listens to Tech Won’t Save Us or This Machine Kills or Team Human have known all along. Or anyone like me who’s been in the industry for thirty years.

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Ah interesting - cheers for sharing!

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I too have been in the industry for many a decade and I heartily concur. I do have many colleagues though that also have been in for many years, and those are still dedicated believers. Maybe their critical thinking has been eaten away by all the lead in soldering tin?

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It’s really disappointing as a huge fan of sci-fi myself. I know we won’t get flying cars and stuff anytime soon, but technology in general is super cool. Humans are really ingenious.

And these corporate troglodytes had to go and ruin a good thing. I hope their balls explode.

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3 points

He’s saying they’re wrong for not currently being open.

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2 points

No, he said they “need to figure out a different open source strategy”. That is completely different.

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2 points

OpenAI

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Sorry for confusion guys - here’s the link: https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/1ieonxv/comment/maa0dcx/

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179 points

Fuck that guy.

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29 points

Sigh… If I need to. unzips pants

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There’s a strong chance he’d enjoy it; so maybe it’s best not to just to spite him. Lol

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It grinds my gears that someone who can’t be fucked with capitalization has that much money and power. I get that using the shift key occasionally is an inconvenience but we do it to help the readers. A conversation is give and take.

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Like all techbros it is an affectation to cultivate a certain sort of appearance. A type of mad faux intellectualism.

You literally have to be a tryhard to do all lowecase on a phone, for example.

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i disabled auto-capitalisation a decade ago on my phone and that change has persisted ever since, but yeah guess i’m a tryhard. yeesh, being a grammar “nazi” was uncool even back then on reddit, imagine still being hard up about it in 2025.

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i’ve disabled auto caps on my phone :o

i generally type in all lower case because it appears more casual, at least to me. it’s not exactly a rule i follow, so it’s never consistent, and i don’t mind capitalizing abbreviations and names and such anyways.

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Same, but I generally only use all lowercase in IMs/other short form text media (so, not here), and when I’m writing German I do capitalize nouns. I’ve always had auto capitalization off since before I started this too since I’m used to pressing shift on the computer.

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i am on a phone. i did not press any extra keys to make my phone not do caps - this is because i have changed my phone to this, because when you write about technical things, capitalisation is important - lower case everything is lower case everything. i’m not about to start hitting an extra key at random times when this is perfectly fine. i’ve never had an issue reading all lower case

it’s not try-hard; it’s practical for people who work with tech

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3 points

Don’t you find capitalisation help to define sentences? It’s much easier to read, particularly at speed.

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2 points

Who says he’s on a phone?

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It seemed to be a trend amongst younger people who would disable auto capitalisation.

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5 points

This is the Reason why Germans are angry all the Time.

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15 points

Man… I initially read that as

can’t be fucked with capitalism

and I was thoroughly confused.

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Well, if openai open sources all their models, what value is there left that is unique to openai? Training data? But that is only valuable if they invent a better way to make it into an “AI”.

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Most companies that have open source products make their money in providing support for it to other companies, so theoretically OpenAI could do that (in fact top level AI developers are pretty rare so they could charge way more than other companies do for consulting) but that wouldn’t be a hundreds-of-billions-of-dollars business plan because it’s much too sensible.

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Hosting a model of that size requires ~800GB of VRAM. Even if they release their models, it wouldn’t make them obsolete since most people and many companies couldn’t host it either way.

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Anyone can now provide that service. Why pay OpenAI when you can pay a different service who is cheaper or provides a service more aligned with your needs or ethics or legal requirements?

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Anyone that has 300.000$ per instance, the know-how to set it up, the means to support it and can outbid OpenAI, yes.

I don’t see that happening on a large scale, just like I don’t see tons of DeepSeek instances being hosted cheaper than the original any time soon.

If they really are afraid of that they can always license it in a way that forbids reselling.

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OpenAI started as a non-profit, so it could be 100% open and still be truthful to it’s original intentions.

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