• The Center Square: Federal employees reportedly told to remove pronouns from email signatures.
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  • I → (the) speaker/writer
  • you → (the) listener/reader, pl. (the) audience
  • they → that person, pl. those people

The writer believes that such an idea is quite stupid. In fact, the writer believes that the audience will find this language extremely obtuse. These methods will only cause more pain to the federal employees in question.

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Don’t forget pronouns like who, mine, and ours. In fact, here’s a list of >100

Someone should write a script that completely replaces these with BS standins

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I think we need a tool that automatically rewrites text to remove all pronouns, but I’m not even sure that is possible.

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  • Name is Alex/Jordan/Leslie
  • Not allowed to clarify gender
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Wouldn’t the world be better off if no one knew each others gender? If you’re a cis man and find yourself attracted to another man? Congrats you’re gay now.

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How does this hold up against a first amendment test?

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When “What Trump wants goes” is all the Supreme Meme Court cares about

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Well like any other employee, you can say whatever you like, but you might get fired for it.

I don’t see how the first ammendment applies here.

That said, I think this is a stupid and mean spirited order. It is by design trying to continue the exodus of federal employees while also the tyrannical denial of being able to identify people however they find appropriate for themselves.

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Well it’s not a private entity hiring them, it’s the actual govt. Usually the defense is that those are private companies and they can do what they want but that doesn’t apply here

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Yes it does apply here. Why would you think it would be different?

There are always policies in government, just like anywhere else you have people working. Freedom of speech is not an excuse to break those policies.

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Because their employer is the US Government. The very entity the 1st Amendment protects us from.

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Not how this works at all. Do you really believe that an employee can just do or say anything while on the job just because they work for the US government?

Lets take Email for example, because that is what we are talking about here. There are policies about structuring emails. An agency can say: Your name goes at the bottom of every email, followed by your position, and then the Logo of the Agency. If you choose to sign your emails with someone else’s name, from “This is such bullshit department” and a logo you made up, you WILL get disciplined.

Your freedom of speech ends at the door. Outside of work feel free, not at work.

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It’ll never have to

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This is just begging for malicious compliance.

You want to eliminate an entire part of speech? Then good luck trying to understand what the fuck my email is trying to say.

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In the article it specifies you to remove pronouns from your email signature. Definitely less fertile ground for malicious compliance, but it’s still doable.

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End every email body with “For your response, I am referred to using (feminine/masculine/any/whatever) pronouns”

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Replace it with “[Insert Pronouns Here]”. Make sure to have your desk already cleaned out though.

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You

FUCKING PRONOUNCE turns red and screams

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Does the reader want to eliminate an entire part of speech? Then good luck trying to understand what the fuck the writer’s email is trying to say.

Could be fun. I bet ChatGPT could automate it.

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DeepSeek can automate it

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Does the reader want to eliminate an entire part of speech?

Which one are they going to outlaw next? Verbs? Or Adjectives?

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Exactly… Maybe have a boilerplate disclaimer at the top of each email that does include pronouns, just explaining that the following email has had all pronouns removed so as to comply with the new rule.

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“The following email has had all pronouns removed in compliance with blah blah blah. Readability has unfortunately, but obviously, been significantly reduced. Apologies will be made available at a later date.”

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So is it alright to just assume trump is female? The email signature no longer states her preferred pronouns, so I think this is what she wants?

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She did sign that executive order designating everyone as female, too.

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