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Finding a farm close where you want is made unnecessarily difficult by the site’s interface. The grouping of states in regions is a hindrance and once you get to your state, the farms can’t be sorted other than by their name, so you have to look through every single one of them to find the farms close to you.

Great idea, terrible execution.

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But probably not a difficult fix. Websites can be updated.

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-33 points

People who produce bad design like that, are often resistant to change.

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99 points

Or they’re inexperienced and don’t know any better.

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Or they might welcome assistance from someone who knows how to do it, since their expertise is in farming and they don’t have a lot of money for web design. Such assistance could possibly qualify as a tax-deductible donation.

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15 points

As a software developer making enterprise software, that simply isn’t true.

I have been responsible for making some pretty poor design choices and UX flows. I was never resistant to change and more just needed someone to say hey bro that’s dumb, I don’t why don’t we do it like this.

Now I know how to do X and won’t make the same mistakes again.

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3 points

If they are, you can probably make a better site, that adds the feature you’re missing and can link to results on theirs.

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35 points

Which is why I’m providing feedback. I really want this to work.

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7 points

Who are you providing it to? Because I don’t think FlyingSquid made this website.

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I don’t see a contact part on the website, but they do have Facebook, instagram and Twitter (X), those would probably be the best places to provide the feedback. And maybe you can add a message when donating?

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34 points

Cmd-F or Ctrl-F to search for cities. It’s imperfect, but I found seven hits for my city instantly. I could search neighboring cities and towns the same way.

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To add to this comment, it’s not hard to find any of this information. “States grouped into areas” scroll to find your state, or again ctrl+f. “Hard to find cities” thankfully living in my area and being somewhat familiar with said area I can scroll down the list and find farmers in my general area. Short of putting in my address and searching for ‘closest to’ which I hate anyway, this isn’t as bad an interface as op suggests.

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I’m still going to say it’s just not great design; it presents you a large map that is not interactable in any way, then below that are bits of that map again with ordinary hyperlinks below for each state and/or region. Just let people click on the first map, or just ditch it entirely.

Once you’ve clicked on a state, you get a list of paragraph format entries sorted in the most useless way: alphabetically by business name.

Who is this website for?

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That assumes you know all the place names of the region where you’re at. Someone that moved recently and/or lives in a tristate area (all of which are in different state regions in my case according to that map) is just faced with a very hostile design.

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3 points

at least you have something my state doesn’t even have anything lmao, it goes to a boilerplate page that gives little info

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My state (big ag state) has a whopping 3 and 2 of those are hemp. The one that isn’t just hemp doesn’t have an area listed, just the state.

I mean I’m glad there are any… but yeah, not a super great resource for some areas lol

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32 points

So every “farm” in my region is actually a community plot you can rent space in or a non profit outreach…no farms to purchase from.

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Thanks so much for this! I don’t mind scrolling and clicking either.

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+1 for this, it isn’t that hard to do a little scrolling and if you really need it, use in-page searching and choose a city or town within your state.

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Im pretty happy to get an locally grown products. Im lucky though as we have lots of farmers markets and its not hard to sign up for a monthly box.

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Here in Germany we have similar projects, but it seems the producers/farmers often have absolutely no idea how to anticipate or meet the demand of their customers.

Like, I’m very aware that farming is a seasonal business, you can’t really grow much salad during the German winter without a greenhouse. Perfectly fine. What is not fine is dumping basically your entire salad harvest for that season in a 4 week window onto paying customers.

You’ll get 8 salad heads per week for a month or two, almost inevitably throwing or giving most of it away, and then you’ll get 5 kilos of some roots for the next 3 months.

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It sorta works this way here. They try their best but there will be a lot of kale. They have this thing were you have some ability to substitute as well

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2 points

Monthly box subscriptions have always been that though. You’re getting whatever they can’t shift.

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I think we should come up with a term for the kind of people to whom the color of a person’s skin is this important.

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Do you think there might be a reason their skin color is relevant under the Trump administration?

Edit: Interestingly, your post history shows that you are very interested in skin color yourself.

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Interestingly, your post history shows that you are very interested in skin color yourself.

Feel free to dig thru it and post it here for everyone to see.

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That sounds like a silly thing to do when it’s publicly available… and notable how often you want to talk about race.

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I didn’t see anything too egregious in their post history to get worked up over. Some downvotable opinions, sure (in America, a lifted truck is almost guaranteed to be indicative of racism, or at least republicanism.) but not really anything to be mad about.

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7 points

I only went back 5 days, maybe that’s a limitation for my mobile app, but yeah I also couldn’t find cause to say they can’t stop talking about race.

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I’m not worked up over anything. I’m just noting that they bring up the subject of race multiple times in the couple of pages of their history I looked at.

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We do: “Republicans”

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It’s not about their skin color to me. It’s more about a likeliness that they’re not a Republican. Yes, I know, there are black Republicans, but it’s less likely.

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There is greater demonstration of community among non white people. As such, theres a built in hook not just for saying hello to a stranger, but for coming together to organize something like this. I think that’s more likely where it’s coming from than what you’re thinking.

Either way, I’d like a better veggie source for the things we don’t grow ourselves.

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I think you are conflating where the “importance” has come from. A person can recognize that skin color does not matter. They can also recognize that the system they live in places a huge importance on skin color through endemic systems that have been in place for decades. How do you counteract an unbalanced system? By sticking your fingers in your ears and going “it doesn’t matter” or by seeking out those who are trying to make a change?

Unfortunately, for some folks it’s never enough. Why only black folks? Why not disabled folks? Why not indigenous folks? Etc. But you have to start somewhere - and many people aren’t even trying. My point is that projects like this are a start. They’re not going to solve every issue but they’re trying to make a difference and I think that’s neat.

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I wouldn’t agree with “sticking fingers in my ears and saying it doesn’t matter” being a fair representation of what I’m trying to say here.

I would claim that in the case of person’s skin color we truly shouldn’t care about it any more than we care about the color of their hair or eyes. It’s it’s a description of appearance, not a reflection of who they are. If we want to live in a world where this is the case, then my argument is that paying more attention to it is not the way to go. I’m sure the people behind this have good intentions but it’s the method I disagree with here.

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I apologize for implying that.

You’re right that we shouldn’t care, but how do we help those who have been disenfranchised if we don’t identify them? Advocacy isn’t about caring about appearance over character, it’s is about shining a light on systematically disenfranchised groups of people so that we can support them.

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Despite what the Fascists would erase from history and science, critical race theory is like the theory of gravity, it’s absolutely correct and all around us.

African Americans have never been made whole since their ancestors were brought here as slaves. They’ve never been the primary or equal beneficiaries of the generational windfalls that have occurred here. They’ve been sabotaged at every step. Ever heard of Tulsa?

It’s ridiculous how many people shriek get over it when Jim Crow is still well in living memory. When African American families get substantial reparations for what was done to their families over and over generationally, so never, then you’d have a leg to stand on.

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Anti-white nationalists? Or anti-MAGAts?

Just spitballin here…

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5 day old account and you’re posting like crazy all over the place.

Now where have I seen that type of behaviour before…

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I didn’t know that averaging 10 messages per day is considered “posting like crazy”

Lets hear your theory then about what that means.

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