44 points

Guess all the people calling it woke still bought it.

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27 points

For what it’s worth, Eurogamer itself called the first game bigoted and refused to rate it. It’s really a strange case.

https://www.eurogamer.net/kingdom-come-deliverance-review

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22 points

That article reads like that other shitpiece that called Ghost of Tsushima racist for portraying Mongols as evil. Like, bruh. It wasn’t called “the dark ages” for a lack of sunlight.

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25 points

It’s called the dark ages for a lack of records. Not sure where you’re trying to go with this argument.

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10 points

For the record, academics and historians generally don’t use the term “the dark ages” anymore.

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21 points

My roommate said that Dragon Age was going to be the most woke game and that he would never spend his money on a game published by EA. He bought it day 1 and beat it 3 times. He fucking loves that game.

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7 points

This series is the opposite of woke if you ask me.

Jesus christ be praised.

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23 points
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It runs so much better than the first KC:D. Good job, Warhorse Studios.

By the by, someone playing the game for an additional 19 hours after giving it a thumbs down on Steam for woke DEI speaks to its quality.

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I’m asexual, not aromantic, but thinking about this from an aromantic perspective I completely get wanting more close platonic relationships that don’t turn romantic. That would actually be inclusive, a lot of people try to put romance everywhere, and I get it! It’s fun to do! But aromantic people like to have representation too, and options to be friends but not romantic helps them feel represented.

Too bad this guy’s “checkbox insert” means it’s probably (I might be wrong) an “omg gay people exist in my game, gross” complaint and not a “hey platonic relationships are important too, don’t make every significant relationship romantic” for all the aros (or even non-aromantic people who think friendship is important as well as romance) out there.

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5 points

I’m like, borderline aro(?) and yeah having the option to proceed down a meaningful friendship path with my favorite characters/have them move in (shoutout to Krobus in SDV) is awesome when provided.

I can also see the “empty tokenism” as in, players deserve more fleshed out queer relationships instead of rainbow stickers being half-heartedly slapped on existing characters but yeah unfortunately the reviewer is probably a pearl clutching “woke DEI other-buzzword bad” type.

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3 points

Absolutely. Portraying a relationship as less meaningful unless there are romantic underpinnings somewhere is weird. It’s just the “checkbox insert” thing cynically insinuates that they like had a gayness quota to fill. Whatever, my point is that it’s undeniably a good game. Check it out if you’re into medieval Europe stuff. You don’t have to play the first one, although you’d be missing out.

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2 points

Every time I see a sequel I get curious about the first. KCD1 seems like something I have a 50/50 shot at either loving (roleplay!) or hating (QOL stuff, probably the combat), not sure which side I’ll come out on.

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3 points

For sure i get that. I really liked how BG3 handled it in that regard, had very deep connections to characters, whilst keeping it aromantically.

In this case though, do people have the option or is it a quest line you have to follow through in this regard? Haven’t played it yet

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21 points

Definitely deserved. I’ve played it for 10+ hours so far and it’s such an improvement on the already excellent first game. It even runs much better on the same hardware.

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11 points

It even runs much better on the same hardware.

That’s great news, I was worried about performance.

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2 points

That actually sounds wrong. Do they use the same level of graphics or was the first game optimized THAT badly?

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11 points

That badly. Updates made it better, though.

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6 points

Pretty sure the first game was just not optimized very well. I can run KCD2 at a very stable 60+ FPS on my RTX 3060 on high/ultra settings. The first one had about 20 FPS less in comparable environments. Not too surprising, considering that it was the dev team’s first CryEngine project. It’s notoriously hard to work with.

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17 points

Just waiting for gog… Hold the line…

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8 points

Absolutely this and wait a year for the DLCs to release with it

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16 points

Very happy for the success of this game, even if it’s not my style. It seems like a breath of fresh air among soulless cash grabs

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4 points

I tried the first and just couldn’t get into it. But the game industry needs titles that aren’t full of loot boxes and requiring online connectivity

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3 points

Did you try any mods that remove some of the limiter features? For example I played with encumbrance set to zero and all vendors with gold to sell you. Both were huge QoL improvements.

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2 points

I couldn’t get into the combat. I’m too used to Skyrim and simple fighting systems. Maybe I’ll try it again

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2 points

Yes, not every game needs to appeal to everyone - the problem is that big publishers are always aiming for the lowest common denominator, that’s why we end up with many bland and similar games

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