171 points

Well, it is true. Most people don’t want to work. I certainly wouldn’t if I could help it.

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And that should be the goal of a society. Currently we work because as individuals we’re forced to. As humanity we’re already past the forced need. Enabling people to choose would be more beneficial and we have the innate quality of finding meaningful ways to spend our time.

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25 points

The problem is that we suck at allocating productivity. For example, we produce enough food for everyone but don’t distribute it half as well as we should, so people still starve while food rots somewhere else. We waste resources propping up a whole host of parasites that add no value to society, such as famous-for-being-famous celebrities, advertisers, speculators and redundant managers, while underpaying the people who actually produce wealth. And we want a brand new iPhone every year, a brand new car every two years, etc, and by and large don’t recycle. We’re wasteful.

Most of the actually important and time-consuming work is automated already. If we were smart about what work we do, an 8-hour work week for everyone would be more than possible. But we are so inefficient with our productivity due to warped priorities that most of us barely scrape by as it is.

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Our excessive lack of proper planning and foresight really gets accentuated when you evaluate how wasteful and inefficient any of our processes are. I’ve been listening to Walden on audiobook recently, it’s almost as if Thoreau really did transcend his time and saw that the future would be equally as futile as his present at properly providing for humanity in a meaningful way.

We would rather have luxuries and pleasures than fulfilling proper needs, work tends to take away from our needs in ways we overlook.

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96 points

Yeah. Me too. You would literally have to give me money, for me to sacrifice a part of my chilling out time.

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20 points

hear me out… what about more money? that do anything for ya?

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The notion that more is better than less has been a dominant paradigm in various fields of inquiry, from economics to psychology. However, this paradigm has been challenged by recent philosophical developments that question the validity and applicability of this assumption. I have examined the arguments for and against the traditional paradigm of more versus less, and explored some of the exceptional cases that defy this binary opposition. In order to reconcile these conflicting perspectives and provide a more nuanced understanding of the complex relationship between larger and smaller quantities, further research is still required.

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6 points

And by part you mean 12 out of 24h

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6 points

Exactly. When I was a kid, my parents gave me a job at the family business. It was great, they said I could work half days. I could do whatever i wanted with the other 12 hours.

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3 points

My current deal says 7.5 h and I’m quite happy with that. If I get a better offer, I may reconsider.

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1 point

I wouldn’t work if I could, but I’d end up doing the same shit all day anyway, but for fun.

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11 points

Can’t say I’ve been missing it, Bob!

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59 points

There’s a reason why it’s called “work” and “free time.” Most prefer free time to do whatever they actually want to do.

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7 points

Truly shocking

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Some people want to work. They usually have no hobbies, family, or interests.

Or they have a job they love. I have heard legends of such things existing.

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11 points

I have a job I love 99% of the time. And I have hobbies. I worked really fucking hard to get to where I am. 80+ hour weeks for months at a time for years.

We also have other younger guys come in, and some of them want to learn, and they go right on up the chain. Then, we have people that want things handed to them, don’t wanna do anything, and wonder why they’re not getting promotions. I’ve even given them incentives, raises, and tried to coach them on what they should do to meet a goal we both set. Some just want to point fingers and blame everyone else, and never take responsibility for their actions

But we have more success stories than “failures.” It’s good company to work for.

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9 points

I see you in the OP’s pic

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16 points

80 hours weeks for months good company

/s…?

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2 points

Could have been a startup

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Yea, it’s a good job. And it’s nothing about hiring more people. Some jobs can only be done by a few people, so we just go around the clock until it’s fixed and bring home big paychecks

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Perhaps there’s a company out there where there’s an exception, but an 80+ hr work week means this company desperately needed to hire, or if you were salaried and especially not earning overtime, it was exploiting your value to get paid without sharing that compensation with you.

If it was under the promise of future compensation, then it’s a case of I’d gladly pay you tomorrow for a hamburger today–still scummy.

Internal promotion is pretty rare these days in my field. Usually, you have to jump ship and you learn quickly not to get too attached to a company.

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It’s because you can only put a few people on these jobs at a time, and you want damn good workers that do quality work. You don’t want multiple crews messing with some things because it can cause confusion or things to be missed

And it wasn’t promised to me, but I did make it up the ladder some, and still have places I can go up to. It’s actually a really good job, pays damn good, but requires a person to put in some work.

But, it’s nothing to go work a month like this, pay all your bills and have $15k extra after it’s all done

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4 points

This is also exactly my situation. I worked hard for my dream job and now it doesn’t feel like work but a fun game instead. I know that’s not the case for most, and I’m grateful for it.

I do hire people for my department, and want to give them the same opportunity to be happy. It’s really hard to find someone who is as excited as me for what I do. It’s not so much they don’t want to work, but they don’t want to work HERE.

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Hoping to be a software dev or some other similar job someday. I’ve been writing code in some capacity ever since I could write (thanks to an uncle who got me into it and paid for all kinds of learning opportunities), some kind of job revolving around it has been my dream for most of my life. I’m 20 now, tried getting into college this year but life is good at turning your plans upside down. I’ve still got plenty of time to chase that dream job at least, I just gotta get the knowledge and the degree

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I forgot about my comment and just tried out Sync, and saw the replies…

That’s great, though. This wasn’t my dream job, but I kind of fell into what I wanted to do along the way. It turns out that it’s very fulfilling and pays well. And I can’t think of anyone that is above me that I don’t like. No one has given me a reason to hate them, and I think they feel the same about me. The people that work for me like me, even though they’re constantly giving me shit

I do like how this site (pretty much Reddit) acts like every employer is out to fuck them, and everyone is as miserable as they are.

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7 points

I love my work. What I do for work is also one of my bigger hobbies. Software engineering is fun!

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That’s me but they are underpaying me and are very nitpicky and pedantic in return and have no respect for the time I put into their stupid enterprise.

As a result the can soon do the shit themselves.

Their efforts of finding people with an iq over 100 have been mixed in the last few years. I am wishing them all the best.

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11 points

Programmer here. The hobby became my job and it’s pretty great when there isn’t a layer of corporate bullshit on top and I can just be creative to satisfy that itch.

Works out most of the time but I’m also able to contribute to open source when in at work so that helps.

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8 points

If it’s all for myself and not for $, I think I can work…

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8 points

The top one says one in five executives agree with the statement. The corollary to this is the cast majority of executives do not agree with that statement.

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139 points

This just in: humans do not enjoy any degree of enslavement.

Check back next year to see if we’ve managed to break the spirit of the human race.

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24 points

In other news, water has been confirmed to be wet.

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11 points

This is true. It’s because we evolved over many hundreds of thousands of years as egalitarian hunter-gatherers and only relatively recently invented things like agriculture, big stratified societies, the bulk accumulation of wealth and property and work.

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This reminds me of a recent meme pushing back against the “greed is human nature” narrative. Was something like:

“If you see a bear riding a bicycle at the circus, do you assume it is the nature of bears to ride bicycles?”

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