Has replaceable battery, ARM64 architecture, sim card slot, USB OTG support, sd card slot, uab type c and no front camera. Ships to europe. Also, I don’t want most of the budget to go for the camera.

minimum: • decent charging and internet send/recieve speed • multi-touch • android 8 or 9 • no annoying bloatware and restrictions (unless can be disabled with ADB) • 2gb ram (1gb free average or less) • 16gb storage (max 8gb system usage) • 60hz refresh rate • 16:9 aspect ratio • screen that can be dimmed to very very dark • can emulate nds games at 50-60fps • very long battery life (8 hours wih airplane mode off) • Runs well 8 years

I’ve read your replies in here. Some of your requests are misguided. You want Android 8 or 9 because anything newer will come with “more garbage”? That simply isn’t true, and there are a plethora of useful features that only arrived in Android 12 onwards.

Any bloatware can be dealt with, any animations you deem superfluous can be disabled, you can change out the launcher for something with zero bloat like Lynx.

You simply won’t find anything half reasonable to use that doesn’t have a front camera. Stick some tape over it if you are worried.

Ignoring the rest, the best deal you will find somewhere within that price range is a Galaxy S20 FE 5G.

I just bought two brand new units for my parents on ebay for $370AUD which = $250 USD.

This was the last flagship (or flagship adjacent) Samsung with a MicroSD slot. Samsung is well catered for by most of the debloating scripts around github via ADB or you can apply root method and get it clean as a whistle.

SOC is a Snapdragon 865, it supports 5G global bands really well, the cameras kick arse but aren’t crazy (12MP), it has a really great wide-angle sensor too. It’s got a higher refresh rate but low resolution, so the sizeable battery leads to an extremely generous use time. Multiple days for someone like you.

Honestly I’m not sure why’d you’d like to spend $200 on an absolute piece of junk as per your specs when you could spend $250 on a new in-box device that will blow your socks off.

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no front camera

That sounds impossible, I don’t think that even exists now.

Android 8 or 9

Really, next thing you’ll want are Windows 7 PCs? All these OSes are no longer supported, no one is going to sell that new.

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I unfortunely agree with your first point. I prefer older OSes because newer ones are usually filled with more garbage.

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the garbage widely known as “security updates”

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Of course you’re allowed your opinion, but what exactly are you referring to by “more garbage”? Are you sure you’re not talking about bloatware installed by phone/carrier companies that’s completely separate from the actual operating system? Also, just like PC operating systems/there are OSes designed to be extremely lightweight, with low system requirements.

Security-wise, using any older OS is a terrible idea, IMO. As long as any personal information will ever pass through that phone, that is. Even if someone discovered a way to remotely hack your phone, eavesdrop on all your interactions, and steal your information, it wouldn’t be patched, even if the vulnerabilities were published. These old OSes literally aren’t supported anymore.

With that said, I wish you good luck in what you’re searching for…

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I mean TTS, “Phone Boosters”, animations and other things I don’t need.

Not everyone wants to void their warranty or risk making their phones unuseable.

Someome being able to remotely hijack a device that is running an os built by Google doesn’t make sense. I don’t know exploits that work like this.

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Have you considered buying a used phone?

There are some pretty good deals on ebay.

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Chances of getting scammed are bigger. No, thanks

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Are you speaking from experience?

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