Any recommendations for a linux distro that i can set up and be reasonably sure my non techy SO won’t break accidentally? The set up doesn’t have to be easy it just has to not break once I leave her alone with it. My first thought was popOS.

My plan is to have 2 profiles and not give her access to sudo. I just don’t want to have to go into it unless she needs a new program.

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Fedora Atomic desktops, specifically Kinoite with KDE6 works well for me, and is basically unbreakable due to the way it works.

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I vote the same, but I’d suggest a uBlue spin of the Fedora Atomic desktops. They have better defaults (all batteries included, as they say) and are easier to use overall IMHO. Bluefin and Bazzite are both great options, and both offer KDE and Gnome variants.

https://universal-blue.org/

Edit: TIL the KDE version of Bluefin is called Aurora.

BTW, uBlue is getting some big recognition lately. They have been on the Fedora Podcast (official) and Framework Laptops has official instructions on their website for installing Bluefin and Bazzite.

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Gotta be slightly careful with those spins though because there is near-zero documentation.

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They have significant documentation, and anything not covered here is just part of Fedora atomic:

https://docs.bazzite.gg/

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Fedora is a bit too eager to deliver new updates IMO, especially KDE. As much as I love KDE, their .0 releases have had serious bugs several times in a row now. It’s always better to wait for .1 patch with Plasma. It may be hard for the user to break Kinoite, but it won’t save them from bugs.

Fedora’s mission have always been to push new stuff when it’s “mostly ready” at the cost of inconveniencing of some users, so I wouldn’t recommend it for non-tech-savvy people.

I know people say that it’s 100% stable for them (as they do for Arch, Tumbleweed, Debian Sid, etc) but that’s survirorship bias. As any bleeding edge distro, Fedora has its periods of stability that are broken by tumultuous transitions to the new and shiny tech (like it was with Pipewire, Wayland default, major DE upgrades, etc). During these times some people’s setup will break and you don’t know ahead of time if it will be yours.

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Pick one of the stable channels from Universal Blue. You get the Fedora atomic goodness, but “ready” rather than “mostly ready”.

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Does it use the same flawed approach as Manjaro by indiscriminately delaying all updates (including critical security fixes)?

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eh, gnome is about the same.

i always wait for at least the .1 or .2

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Haven’t used GNOME for a while, but I guess that’s a problem of open source projects in general. Though GNOME at least has Red Hat behind it.

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Any of them. Just don’t give the root password.

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This is what I do with my mom and her boyfriend. I’ve had them on Linux for a few years now and neither have managed to break anything.

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Set up Tailscale and an SSH key for remote tech support

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Or just wireguard and ssh?

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Or just ssh. Personally I’d set up a remote desktop in addition to that

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If you already have a public facing server for them to connect to then sure.

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Might end up in dumb annoying situations like setting up wifi requiring root and such

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That is not a thing in userspace. No idea what you’re even alluding to here.

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Surprising amount of stuff requires root (or used to). It reminds me of this glorious rant from Linus from his less domesticated times (that he made on Google Plus hah). https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/linus-to-opensuse-devs-kill-yourself-now.30414/

The highlight:

So here’s a plea: if you have anything to do with security in a distro, and think that my kids (replace “my kids” with “sales people on the road” if you think your main customers are businesses) need to have the root password to access some wireless network, or to be able to print out a paper, or to change the date-and-time settings, please just kill yourself now. The world will be a better place.

Oof.

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Debian is good at being basic, generic, stable AND has an automatic security-update-in-the-background feature

The whole amount of instruction to give to Dear SO is just to reboot the machine if it ever seems to misbehave

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“Hello IT have you tried turning it on and off again?”

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Linux mint is a good, “click first” distro that won’t break without root + will be easy for her to use. For something with a more modern desktop and more recent updates, Bazzite is really good at just working and (in my experience) has never broken

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Bazzite might be what i go for the more i look at it. Thanks

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I like bazzite!

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Here’s the bazzite attempt at viral marketing, everyone.

Remember when we saw it for MX Linux?

Be careful about what you install on your computers.

Edit: The incessant, vehement backlash against calling out shilling is always a telltale sign of shilling. Shills are not allowed to let people accuse them of shilling without going through their playbook of what to say next.

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I have tried most known distros but not bazzite, yet. might be the next one on my distrohop journey since everyone recommends it. hope it works better than fedora kde, it does not get along with my hardware AT ALL

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For me, Mint borked the network after an update. I never got to figure what was wrong - the local network worked, the Internet connection was there and other devices worked through the same router, remote IPs were unreachable so it’s not a DNS problem, etc.

But I might have had an edge case.

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Aurora or Bluefin would be great, general purpose distros. They’re based on Fedora Kinoite and Silverblue, respectively, so you get that atomic unbreakability with the addition of some handy software and easy, optional scripts via ujust.

I have Bazzite on a laptop specifically for this reason, so if I ever kick the bucket early, they will have a reliable and portable computer.

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Bazzite does seem like a good option, thanks.

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Aurora gets a vote from me. I set it up for my technically repulsive father, and he gets on just fine with it.

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