Tuberculosis has entered the chat.
And Campylobacter, Cryptosporidium, E. coli, Listeria, Brucella, Salmonella… It’s the Macy’s parade equivalent of preventable diseases by UHT and y’all been invited!
On the other hand, unrefrigerated raw milk is a fantastic way of meeting who’s who of the bacterial world.
But it’s natural! And natural always means it’s good for you, because I’m scared of chemicals despite not knowing what a chemical is because I can’t pronounce their names!
Exactly, Salmonella can be on its own a great way to boost your defenses*.
*If you survive it.
I think there is confusion between raw milk, pasteurized milk and UHT milk. Only UHT milk doesn’t need to be refrigerated but it tastes horrible.
Another weird UHT enjoyer here. If it weren’t so expensive where I’m at then I’d be having it more often
There’s a reason the milk man used to deliver every day
Why do you automatically discount your dad from being banged by the milk man as well?
I don’t get it. Isnt all milk to be refrigerated?
the post is highlighting the hypocrisy in refrigerating milk while also being against milk pasteurization, since both of those practices have been done for around a hundred years and serve to make milk last longer and be safer to drink.
Just about every dairy product (butter, cheese, whey, buttermilk) was made as a way to keep milk safe for consumption. Rejecting pasteurization, which is just slightly warming up milk is incredibly obtuse and reeks of deliberate ignorance
This feels like a straw man. I don’t remember them making any arguments against using a refrigerator.
I mean fuck them, but fuck them on topic otherwise we are just huffing out own smug cloud and that doesn’t convince anyone.
They don’t make those arguments because they’re stupid and don’t understand what they’re talking about, but if they really had the problem with pasterisation, they would necessarily have to have problems with other methods of preventing bacteria growth, like refrigeration for example. The fact that they don’t is the signifyer on itself.
Regular refrigerated shelf milk is not brought to the boiling temperature. It is brought to 71.5 C / 160.7 F for 15 seconds. The boiling temperature of milk is around 95 C.
ultra high temperature pasteurized milk is brought way above the boiling point (135 C) for 2 seconds, but you won’t find that in the refrigerated section. It will be sitting in a carton in an unrefrigerated aisle.
The reason for avoiding pasteurization is to maintain nutrients.
It’s got nothing to do with whatever ethic might require a person to purposefully invite infection, as this post seems to presuppose.
So what scientific experiments have you conducted to come to this conclusion? Obviously, you can never trust a real scientist, right? So you must have done SOMETHING to come to this conclusion all on your own.
So tell me your methods. I’d love to see your groundbreaking findings, since you’re the smartest person in the world and no one will ever be able to trump your science.
A lot of continental Europeans drink UHT which only needs refrigerating once opened.
Doesn’t raw milk have an even shorter shelf life?
Depends on how you look at it. Raw milk spoils at the same pace as [Edit: ultra-]pasteurized milk. Only for raw milk the counter starts ticking once the milk leaves the cow, whereas [Edit: ultra-]pasteurized milk remains sterile until you open the package.
Pasteurised doesn’t equal sterilised. Not sure ofcourse where you live since apparently that matters for this term since some places used pasteurised for what is double pasteurization and thermized for single pasteurization.
I know the pasteurised milk I buy will spoil in a matter of days, even if unopened. The only milk that will stay good unopened for months us UHT.
in a way, no, because raw milk is already unsafe to drink by the time it’s packaged
Actually the science on this shows that kids who grow up close to manure have lower incidence of allergies and other autoimmune problems.
