Please suggest a good and relatively affordable private email provider. I am considering tuta, mailbox right now. I know proton has gone rogue.

I cannot self host one and the email provider must be somewhat reputable as I will be using this for my work portfolio. Anything with €1-€3 per month is encouraged.

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Proton has not gone rogue.

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The only thing that turns people off is that they cooperate with governments. Well, if you’re using it for your business you shouldn’t worry about that unless it’s illegal business, at which point you have bigger problems

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They dont “cooperate with governments”, they follow the laws they legally have to. All the cases I can think of where they gave info to a government with a legal order to do so, they gave information that has to be logged in order for the system to work and the subjects themselves used poor opsec eg: their real names for accounts and recovery emails…

Some privacy extremists have unrealistic expectations when they sign up to these things without fully understanding how it works and then blame the provider for something they were completely transparent about from the beginning.

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You’re right, they got called out as a “honeypot” for basic KYC and not having E2EE (which you can’t with email AFAIK)

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proton works, idc what one of the 5 owners say, it is impossible to avoid that type of people

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They are technically not “owners” they are members of a “Board of Trustees” of a non-profit organization (the Proton Foundation). They are legally bound by Swiss law to uphold their organzation’s goals of fighting for privacy rights.

But yea, Andy Yen’s statements is quite concerning nonetheness, and its red flags.

I means its not like doomsday level situation that you have to drop everything you’re doing and migrate, but its a good idea to pre-emptively move anyways, before he goes full elon.

We don’t know how stong Switzerland’s rule of law is, but you don’t wanna wait and find out that it turns out the way like some other country’s rule of law 👀

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People keep posting this, like some kind of biased blog post on medium is supposed to be a gotcha moment that fixes everything. It doesn’t.

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Tuta. Regardless of email provider, chose one that lets you use your own domain - that way it’s easier to change providers.

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I’ve been using Tuta for several years now, I didn’t know I could use my own domain!

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Paid tiers only i think, but yes.

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I am a paid tier… and I have my own business… this is really something I need to do.

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I strongly recommend this as well. Swapped to Tuta and my own domain after leaving Proton. Having a domain for future moves is huge, I wish I had considered it sooner.

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I like to dish out advice without actually following it.

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Me to a depressed internet stranger: “Life is worth living”

Also me: Want to end my life every day

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oh yeah, I have my own domain since Uhm 2004 and have switched providers about, hm, six times without problems. I never delete emails either (spam I do) and just use Thunderbird’s drag and drop to move MA mails from one server to another.

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Proton lets you do that too.

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Posteo ftw!

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Posteo. Seems like it’s missing love here. Simple, out of the way, it just works.

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I would happily consider Posteo but the fact that they don’t support custom domains is a deal breaker for me. That said, using an email aliasing service in front of it could be a solution.

If - for any reason - I want to move email providers, I don’t want to change my email everywhere.

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