When a microbe was found munching on a plastic bottle in a rubbish dump, it promised a recycling revolution. Now scientists are attempting to turbocharge those powers in a bid to solve our waste crisis. But will it work?

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Who knows what its consequences are? How about a simpler approach, like reducing plastic use maybe instead of some pie in the sky project?

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We do probably want both. Even if we end plastic production completely tomorrow, we need to work out a way to clean up all the plastic we’ve already dumped all over the world

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yeah but one of them we can do right now with minimum consequences and the other is provocative with no clear path to viability and no real understanding of the consequences.

We should prob just leave any existing plastic as plastic wherever it lay instead of turning it into CO2. Burying it is a better idea than emitting it.

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I agree. We want both. Its like water consumption needs which keep increasing. We want to reduce demand and increase leakage reduction rather than take more water out of the environment. We’re making a mess of this planet because our lives are based on the assumption of eternal growth.

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49 points

Who knows what its consequences are?

That’s why they’re doing research genius

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Both is good, but even stopping all plastic today and picking up every piece of trash we can grab with our hands won’t clean up the microplastics that are already in the environment.

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With how heavily integrated plastics are into EVERYTHING in our society, I think that’s not necessarily the “simpler” approach, even if I agree that it’s vital.

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This is why research is being done. The “pie in the sky project” you’re objecting to is intended to answer the very question you’re asking.

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What kind of question even is that? Reducing plastic enough and getting rid of the amount that’s already in the environment without new technological solutions is nothing but fantasy at this moment.

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Mfw the bacteria evolve to turn plastic into methane 🔥 💀 🔥

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Mfw cows are producing 300 times as much methane as there is plastic being produced in total: 😐

Check the actual numbers before getting so concerned.

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YFW you don’t even check the numbers you are chastising me for not checking and are wildly incorrect 🤡:

https://www.statista.com/topics/5401/global-plastic-waste/#topicOverview

400 million metric tons of plastic per year produced

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1261318/cattle-methane-emissions-worldwide/

75 million metric tons of methan from cow farts per year

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As if the micro plastics crisis hasn’t already made the “pie in the sky” solution a necessity at this point

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I agree. However, the most important reason to reduce plastics is because of the health effects of microplastics. Waste is probably the second priority in my mind.

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I would say because the vast majority of plastics are made from fossil fuels and contribute to global warming, microplastics are bad too though

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Paper bags are worse, except maybe for microplastics. But they take more resources to create, and aren’t as recyclable as good plastic bags. You can use a canvas bag, but that takes even more resources to create. So you have to use the same canvas bag for years

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The most ideal situation is if we archieve 100% recycling.

In reality no thing can disappear, both matter and energy just change form. We only need to look at nature for proof that 100% reusing matter and energy is feasible. Even our “waste” wasn’t wasted.

These microbes are yet another key in the puzzle to obtain the next breakthrough. Once we master industrial chains with full conservation of matter and energy the cost of creating things will become negligible.

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Making a nuclear bomb is much easier than keeping people from using it once it’s made.

Natural science is difficult, but getting people to do the right thing is almost impossible.

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Let’s be real: humanity will never do anything that even slightly inconveniences us. We need to solve our problems with “power”: microplastic-eating bacteria, blocking the sun, creating fresh water from salt water, terraforming another planet, anything but convincing the crowds to stop their shit.

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I’ve been hearing about plastic eating bacteria for literal decades now. As far as I am concerned this is another Big Oil psyop to distract people from finally banning single use plastics.

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Reduce, reuse, recycle. It’s last for a reason.

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Will they attempt to eat us as well since we now have plastics within our body?

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19 points

We can only hope

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I, for one, welcome our new bacteria overlords.

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-starts cooking with Teflon and metal spatula exclusively-

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4 points

New idea for the next horror movie.

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This bacteria eats only one type of plastic (PET), and that’s a minority of the plastic we produce

Related, half of the plastic pollution in the oceans is fishing nets; want less plastic in the environment, stopping fishing would be a better first step (and is required for many other reasons anyway)

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The other fun trick with the plastic eating bacteria articles is to never mention what the bacteria produces from the plastic. Let the reader assume that whatever is being produced is better than the plastic itself.

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Holy shit the net thing is shocking, I have never heard that before.

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They’ll stop fishing soon anyway when the natural stocks have completely collapsed.😭

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PET is one of the most worrying plastics because it’s soft and sheds microplastic easily.

Also, microorganisms are fairly easy to adapt to other food sources because of how rapidly they evolve. Coupled with genetic modification I don’t think it’s impossible for this to be adapted to all forms of soft plastic.

And while this is good. It is also going to cause problems when bacteria starts eating plastic we don’t want it too.

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PET is also probably the most already-recycled and recyclable plastic we use. While it is objectively a good thing we now have a new way to recycle something, it’s not going to have the huge impact that the phrase “change the world” implies.

News headlines over-representing scientific advancement as a way of boosting morale sets people up for disappointment and complacency.

There are very different types of plastics in this world that each have their own formulas, dangers, benefits and recyclability. One things you can do for both the world and your health is to learn some of the high-level differences.

This is the most globally-accurate guide i have found for plastic identification and recyclability info

Tl;dr image summary of above content. We only really recycle plastics marked 1 PET, 2 HDPE, 4 LDPE and 5 PP at the moment

If you can find a way to reduce use of 3 PVC, 6 PS and 7 Other / unmarked plastics in your lives, please do so.

Tangent: only 2 and 5 should be used for food/medical if you are also heating it, especially acidic things. If you are in a situation where you can’t avoid that, low heat, less time and you will minimise or likely entirely avoid problems.

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Fishing nets are the most common waste, in the most common place that fishing nets are used.

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It will immediately start eating all the plastic that we are still using causing untold damage. Believe me. When I mentioned this before some techbro smuggly suggested that the scientists would just invent some sort of plastic that they couldn’t eat. Thus setting is back to where we started.

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This definitely feels like the biggest problem with this idea and I suggest we keep that techbro as far away from the solution as possible 😂

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You realize that the bacteria in question were found in the wild, yes? This isn’t something new. It’s an effort to harness a capability that already exists in nature.

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Ill Wind by Kevin J. Anderson and Doug Beason

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The scientists undoubtedly know this, unfortunately I, like you, am too lazy to read what they have to say about this problem. It is conceivable that the bacteria would only flourish in certain environments and plastic would become slightly similar to wood - decomposes quite slowly if you keep it reasonably dry and clean, decomposes very fast when there are water and air and dirt where enough bacteria lives present.

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They wouldn’t just release a plastic eating bacteria like some sort of bioweapon. I could see that being a problem if it got out by mistake but still, how would it spread? What would stop us just using chemicals to kill any that got out like we already do with bacteria?

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