Hopefully both of the people using snaps can recover from this.
Canonical make it hard not to use snaps so only those who took extra steps are not using them.
For a while now the best way to experience Ubuntu is by using something based on it.
Sadly that is not true, see snap vs flatpak usage in debian.
Keep criticizing snap (But do it in a way that is trustworthy and valuable), if somebody wants to use snap due to some advantage that is fine but he should make an informed decision
Good thing I can just install applications from apt instead…
user@pc:~$: sudo apt install app
The following additional packages will be installed:
snapd
…oh.
This. This is what really pissed me off about Ubuntu. I even uninstalled (or thought I did) the entire snapd system. But then I went to install something and…it reinstalled snapd. 🤦
So I moved to Linux Mint which was an excellent experience. And just the other day I replaced that with LMDE 6 (Linux Mint Debian Edition) and I couldn’t be happier.
It’s the ideal distro for anyone who wants apt but not Ubuntu and doesn’t want the pain of manually installing Debian.
I did a debian install this weekend, and it seemed pretty mild. It asked if I wanted separate partitions for /tmp and /home and if I wanted to encrypt my lvm. Then I chose my desktop environment from a list and that was it. It even installed grub for me.
Yes Debian 12 is easier than Debian has ever been. But your may still need to install the CUPS printing system manually, your machine may not recognise that you’ve attached a printer whereas on Mint it will, and it will install the driver.
On Debian you’ll probably have to manually install any proprietary drivers (eg WiFi) whereas LMDE did this for me automatically.
Plus the desktop will be very bland on Debian and you’ll need to take the time to obtain themes, icons etc and make it look nice. Whereas with LMDE they’ve already customised Cinnamon for you, saving lots of time.
Either way is fine but Debian will need more time to set up and LMDE is ready out of the box
No way. That’s another Corporation backed distro. Most of the Devs are also Red Hat employees
IMO Linux Mint is a great replacement, too, although it does not come with the default-Gnome desktop layout
Yea, not with firefox, at least not without switching to some third party repo.
I use the ppa because the snap version does not let me use the keypass XC Plug-In or my VPN plug in.
I have the issue that the snap version can’t browse files whose path includes a hidden dot file/directory in my home directory. It doesn’t seem there’s any clean way for me say “no, I give you explicit permission to read these files.” My workaround was to sudo mount --bind ~/.foo ~/bar and then browse from ~/bar instead. I’m not sure what they think they were preventing me from doing but they failed.
Canonical’s changes to apt could be considered malicious in and of themselves because it installs from a source you didn’t request for, sure seems malicious to me.
This is the major reason why maintainers matter. Any method of software distribution that removes the maintainer is absolutely guaranteed to have malware. (Or if you don’t consider 99% software on Google Play Store the App Store to be “malware”, it’s at the very least hostile to and exploitative of users). We need package maintainers.
As much as I despise snap, this instance bring some questions into how other popular cross-linux platform app stores like flathub and nix-channels/packages provide guardrails against malwares.
I’m aware flathub has a “verified” checks for packages from the same maintainers/developers, but I’m unsure about nix-channels. Even then, flathub packages are not reviewed by anyone, are they?
Nixpkgs submissions work through GitHub PRs which have to be reviewed, and packages usually build from source (or download binaries from the official site if no source is available, and verifying it against a checksum). It’s a much safer model since every user has a reproducible script to build the binary, especially if Flathub doesn’t have any reviews as you say.
As a snap package maintainer i find it weird that there weren’t any guardrails in place to avoid situations like this, considering that the main snap consumer are Ubuntu users and Ubuntu is from canonical.
I guess I should’ve set my expectations a bit lower
I’ve been… baffled… that all of Canonical’s different products don’t work better together.
It’s not that they don’t work better in conjunction, it’s canonical’s lack of moderation in the snapcraft store.
This could’ve avoided day one by adding a manual review process (like what they are temporarily doing right now)
I don’t know how flathub handles new package submissions, but I think that they definitely need to have a process similar to what other distros have in place for native packages (heck, even Ubuntu’s own repos have a review process)
you confuse canonical with fedora or rhel standard… which… is sad… but at least flatpak is the savior in the end. haha…
