A man who killed and ate a man has been released back into public life after ten years.

Tyree Smith, from Bridgeport, Connecticut, killed a homeless man and then ate his brain and eyeballs according to officials.

The horrific case made headline news, with Smith found not guilty of murder by reason of insanity after a July 2013 trial.

In lieu of a stint behind bars, Smith was ordered committed to a state psychiatric hospital for 60 years.

But now, ten years after the grim incident, the state Psychiatric Security Review Board said Smith was ready to be transitioned back into the community.

Smith has been released from the facility, Connecticut’s most secure, as of writing.

He will be living in a Waterbury group home, and is not allowed to associate with anyone involved in criminal activity.

The board stated in its report: “Tyree Smith is an individual with a psychiatric illness requiring care, custody and treatment.

“Since his last hearing Tyree Smith has continued to demonstrate clinical stability.

“Mr. Smith is medication compliant, actively engaged in all recommended forms of treatment, and has been symptom-free for many years.”

During the trial, Smith’s cousin Nicole Rabb claimed he arrived at her Connecticut home in December 2011, talking about Greek gods and ruminating about needing to go out and get blood.

When she saw him the next evening she noticed what appeared to be specks of blood on his pants and that he was carrying chopsticks and a bloody ax.

Smith then allegedly told Rabb he killed a man and ate his brains in the Lakeview Cemetery while drinking sake, and grimly warned he intended to eat more people.

A month later, police found Angel Gonzalez’s mutilated body in the vacant apartment on Brooks Street in Bridgeport where Smith had lived as a child.

Police later recovered the bloody ax and an empty bottle of sake in a stream bed near the Boston Avenue cemetery.

The defense’s case rested on the testimony of Yale University psychiatrist Dr. Reena Kapoor, who testified that Smith had kept his lust for human flesh after his arrest, even offering to eat her.

Kapoor claimed Smith suffered from psychotic incidents since childhood and heard voices that told him to kill people.

She then said the voices ordered Smith to eat the victim’s brain so they would get a better understanding of human behavior and the eyes so that they could see into the “spirit realm.”

Kapoor added that Smith went to Subway after eating the man’s body parts.

The report on Smith’s release said: “He denied experiencing cravings but stated that if they were to arise, he would reach out to his hospital and community supports and providers.”

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Some of y’all really need to figure out the difference between punishment and rehabilitation…

And which one actually works.

Stop stroking your hate boners and start advocating for real solutions. You don’t fix pain with more pain. All that does is exacerbate the cycle.

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It’s not about pain, at least not for me. If he was in the most comfortable psych hospital in the world, where they fluffed his pillows and shined his shoes, if he ate better and slept better than I do, that would be fine. But releasing him?

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I mean, he’s going to a group home. He’s likely going to be carefully managed for the rest of his life. This is more of a reduced level of monitoring.

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I hope that’s true, but I’ve known group homes that are… somewhat lax. The state of mental health care (and funding) in this country does not inspire hope regarding his monitoring.

I suppose we just have to hope that he’s not lying about not having urges. As someone with mental illness, I’ve lied my socks off to avoid the psych ward before.

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He’s likely going to be carefully managed for the rest of his life

Let’s fucking hope

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Likely is the key word. Some group homes have strict supervision while others have effectively no supervision at all.

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The problem is we don’t care enough to have psych facilities like that. Which is why we have an entire wing of the emergency department at my hospital dedicated to holding people who are doing nothing but waiting for a bed at one of the trash facilities we actually do bother to provide. No real treatment in the emergency department except meds, but also not safe enough to send them home. Scary that there’s somebody now who needs the bed in that facility more than this guy does.

I’ll say I’m proud of this country the day we provide good, comfortable lifelong treatment facilities for people like this, alongside quality rest homes for our elderly. We have the resources to do it, and the fact that we don’t is an absolute indictment of our society.

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We did have psych facilities for a long time, but a lot of abuse was discovered, and our fix for it was to close all those facilities down and release everyone, who mostly just became homeless.

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it’s a complicated issue, and we need to get society on board with the idea of treating mental health (to both a sufficient and humane degree) in addition to physical health. moving away from the institutionalization model was intended to ensure people weren’t just locked away to rot at the state hospital under the “supervision” of indifferent or hostile caretakers.

without community support and with the move toward profit-driven healthcare, people aren’t going to get what they need. now our institutions are just literal prisons instead of asylums.

but anyway, i know you know most of this already (the shortcomings of the profit-driven model), as someone working in healthcare.

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The problem is our justice system only focuses on the punishment part. Rehabilitation is either non-existent for most inmates or completely inadequate. The likelihood of this man being mentally stable enough to be safely reintegrated into public life is extremely small.

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He didn’t go to prison though, he went to a pysch ward, seems like exactly the kind of thing you’d be advocating for.

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So the fault lies with the inadequacy of the justice and healthcare system. But my point still stands - simply locking someone away does nothing to actually help.

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maybe not… a high profile case like this may well have attracted the attention of more competent psychiatrists, or motivated his care team/state to seek it out. it also seems possible to me that his psychosis was very treatable with the right meds, but that he had not been able to access that care previously.

so yeah. mental health care is health care, and in this case it’s important not only to the well-being of Mr. Smith but to his community as well. i agree with you that, for the american “justice” system, most cases are treated as it punishment is the correct response.

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The US justice system unfortunately runs on emotion and punishment rather than rehabilitation, thanks in no small part to the whole privatized prison system. The average American would rather see someone suffer than get the help they need. This is a particularly strong mindset ironically among the conservative religious, but there are plenty of liberals who think that way too. This country needs reform on so many systems…

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what exactly is the solution to a fucking murdering cannibal?

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Serious mental health treatment, rehabilitation, and medication. Extensive monitoring by mental health professionals, routine check-ins… Basically what they’ve done.

I’m not saying just release the dude, wash their hands of him, and say “good luck”…

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Did he fuck him too?

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He ended someone’s life. That alone should remove him from society forever.

Now his entire release hinges on him being compliant with his meds to not end someone else’s life.

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So if your brakes stop working and you run someone over tomorrow, you should be removed from society forever?

Accidentally spread COVID to your grandma and she died? Life in prison for you!

Had a stillbirth? Goodbye society, put the wench behind bars.

Obviously that’s the dumbest take I’ve ever heard. How do people have so little empathy they can’t even imagine what a mental issue like that could even be like. These people are sick and not in control.

If we have highly educated people who can accurately take measures to cure these people, I’m 100% supporting this. More yet, if the US cared only a tiny bit more about healthcare, cases like this would easily be avoided.

People who voted for those not giving a fuck killed the man, maybe you, the voter should be jailed too, according to your rethoric?

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If this comment was on Reddit you’d be downvotes to hell.

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That’s crazy, but it’s not

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What are “real” solutions, in your opinion? What do you feel should be done for the victims and their loved ones and family?

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Nothing can really be done for them. Locking him up won’t do anything for them, either. One could argue for some form of restitution, but then you’d have to ask if they even want anything from the guy.

The real solutions are adequate mental healthcare and access to medication, as well as routine monitoring and check-ins. All following an extensive inpatient treatment and rehabilitation program… So, basically what they’ve done here. Fighting pain with more pain doesn’t do anyone good. It’s entirely reactionary. Locking someone up for life does not help anyone.

Helping the person get the treatment they so desperately need does.

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I am not talking abou the perpetrators, though. I wanted to know what should be done to care for the victims of violent crimes.

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I don’t want to live near a city that a fucking psychotic brain eating killer is free to walk the streets! That’s absolute madness

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You definitely do already and just don’t know it.

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Evidently you don’t understand the prevalence and severity of mental health issues, cause this could happen anywhere…

Unfortunately our healthcare system is so fucked up, and society is full of people like you that would rather hurt people than help them, that this sort of thing is only exacerbated.

Stop being part of the problem. Be part of the solution.

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The dude ate someone’s fucking brain, you live next to him if you’re fine with that

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In this issue I refuse to be liberal. If your mental illness causes you to kill and eat people, you don’t get to rejoin society. If I was the mentally ill cannibal, I would never want to be out. Same thing happened up here in Canada, we have cannibals and terrorists running around free cause they’re “rehabilitated” and the rest of us? Fuck us and our safety

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Well then it’s a good thing you don’t make the rules

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Same thing happened up here in Canada

And look at all the crime he’s committed. Oops, wait, he hasn’t.

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They wouldn’t tell us if he did. All this situation has taught me is that if I wanna murder someone, eat part of them. I’ll get away with it with a slap on the wrist and some pills

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Naw this dude is damaged goods. What happens when they cut his meds or if he stops taking it? Other peoples brains gonna be looking very tasty in that group home.

No, this a death penalty thing and that’s a mercy. You kill a guy and eat his brains there’s no coming back, just kill the bastard cheaply and use the resources to rehabilitate someone that can readjust like a drug user.

Planets fucking full anyways to keep a cannibal alive tbh. Make room for good people.

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Technically cannibals would be one solution to a full planet.

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Lol you ain’t wrong. Maybe we can air drop a bunch into a gated community somewhere 🤔

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Planets fucking full anyways

Piss off with this Malthusian bullshit, will you?

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Never been stuck in traffic huh?

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So, resolve a murder with more murder… Yeah, that’s a real great solution

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That’s kinda how we dealt with shit for millenia. One thing about humans is we are very good at making more.

Too bad the guy who got his brain ate can’t be rehabilitated.

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I feel like there’s a lot of steps between rehabilitating a chronic shoplifter and a guy who killed and consumed a guy’s brain. Even if someone is rehabilitated should they escape punishment? Should we not punish people for what they do to others?

Sometimes the lessons that stay with you longest are learned through pain. Sometimes you need to feel hurt to understand it.

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If the guy was truly determined by actual professionals (aka: not you) to be fit to return to society, then what’s the issue?

What gain does anyone get from unnecessarily punishing him longer? It’s just a waste of time and resources to inflict pain on an individual because people can’t accept that someone can change.

Punishment does very little in the way of teaching a lesson. Do some actual research.

Edit: furthermore, this was an incident of mental illness and a severe psychological break. You can’t punish that out of someone. That makes no sense. This man needed serious help, got it, and has been compliant with his treatment.

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He wasn’t punished. He was “found not guilty of murder by reason of insanity” and placed in a state psychiatric hospital. That’s not punishment, that is treatment and care. That’s also why he is being released - they have determined that he is stable enough to be back in society. (I have my doubts that he will remain stable without being in a psychiatric hospital but I guess we’ll all see.)

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“What gain does someone get from unnecessarily punishing him longer?” Safety. If you have someone who commits a premeditated murder (insane or not). Then granting them the opportunity to do it again is a serious risk.

Additionally, schizophrenia doesn’t just completely go away. Most cases are episodic, the fact that he is fine now does not mean he’s “cured”. You at the very minimum need to be able to force continuous treatment until his death.

The fact that punishing people serves little utility, doesn’t mean that you should release murderers. The fact that protecting society by imprisoning people, “punishes” the people does not mean that you shouldn’t protect society by imprisoning people.

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While I trust professionals in many things, I’m not sure how much experience they have dealing with cannibals who harbor murderous intent. Can you honestly say to me that what little money and resources it takes to keep this single man locked up is worth the possibility of him doing it a second time? What’s a second life worth? Ten years?

I think people like you are a hair from being as insane as the people they lock up. Not all crimes should be forgiven and cold blooded murder is at the top of that list. Sure, he should be allowed to earn more freedoms but released back into society?

Absolutely fucking not.

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Your comment was good and all but really I just want to tell you I love your profile picture. Don’t see enough ODST love out there. The Superintendent was such a great idea

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Ten years is the price of someone else’s entire life? There should be no system in which robbing someone of their future so deliberately should be washed away.

He wanted to eat someone. You don’t have to murder to get access to a corpse. Cold blooded murder should not be seen as ‘correctable’. A man lost his entire life. He loses only ten years. Fuck that.

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He ate a man’s brains and eye balls.

Eww gross.

He went to subway after eating the man’s body parts.

EWWWWW! GROSS!

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We have crab juice or mountain dew

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Yeah this is one where I don’t think you should ever get out. Ain’t worth it.

If it’s dependent on him being compliant with meds and doesn’t have someone constantly ensuring he’s on them, it isn’t gonna end well. What happens when he just decides he’s fine and doesn’t need them anymore?

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Then the group home that administers his medication reports it?

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Are all group homes equally stringent? I’m not trying to be mean here, but to be honest, this guy being free freaks me out.

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The American punitive view vs. a rehabilitative one is terrifyingly real in these comments. It was an awful awful thing that happened, and he should be monitored the rest of his life, but if it is determined by medical professionals (a.k.a. not you) then he deserves to lead a full life, and have the opportunity to contribute to a society that he caused harm too instead of being a cost to taxpayers everywhere for the rest of his life, while he is medicated and able to rejoin society, that harms everyone even more in the long run.

This man should have had the health supports he needed before this ever happened, likely something exacerbated by the US medical system.

Also to dispel some common myths:

  • Due to legal fees, it costs significantly MORE to sentence someone to death in the US (sidenote, also one of the few 1st world countries still conducting the backwards barbaric practice), than the cost of them continuing to serve life in prison; it is not the “cheap” option.
  • Insanity pleas on average 1) yield longer sentences in mental facilities than similar cases where there was no insanity plea, b) if not successful in getting an insanity sentence yield longer jail sentences on average. From a criminal judicial standpoint, there is very rarely any advantage to pleading insanity, and it’s even rarer still that someone actually gets it when they were not in fact insane. The testing, and level of evidence needed far exceeds what you can gather from a casual read and comment online. It is a hugely rare thing legally, we just tend to hear about them as they’re represented in the media at disproportionate rates compared to standard trials.

To all my American friends, not shitting on you, you’re a wonderful country, of largely wonderful people, but with some bad bad bad policies that I hope will improve in coming years.

Love,

Your hat.

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  1. yield longer sentences in mental facilities than similar cases where there was no insanity plea

Is that including the actual length of the sentence rather than the title amount which is reduced later? Seems like 60 years to 10 years is a much larger reduction than is usual for prison sentences.

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I’m not 100% sure, that’s a good point, I’ll look into this. I agree in this case is does seem that way, but be careful for falling prey to making conclusions on a sample size of 1, there are outliers in any data sample. To be sure there are without doubt cases where the insanity plea yield shorter sentences, but from my education on the topic it’s always been my understanding that this is the case on average (to be clear, this isn’t through internet articles or word of mouth on Facebook, this was from multiple sociology and criminal psychology courses taught by PHd educated individuals. As a disclaimer while I have a Masters in Psychology and have done original research in political psychology, my main field is not criminal psychology specifically).

I looked for a solid while and couldn’t verify the claim of my past professors, I found one study in New Zealand contradicting this claim specifically saying that on average NGRI (not guilty by reason of insanity cases) served shorter sentences (note the wording of “served” referring to how much time they actually served, rather than just the sentence as you were asking about initially) on average in murder cases compared to other individuals with serious mental illness that did not receive NGRI sentences. However they take this as evidence (since it’s based on actual time served, rather than the initial sentence), that murder cases treated as NGRI are a positive vs. putting these same individuals in prison given the taxpayer pays for them to be incarcerated for a shorter period of time, AND alongside this results in a lower likelihood of future reoffending upon release. Some things I found across studies was 1) there is heavy racial and gender bias present in when NGRI pleas are granted, 2) recidivism rates are generally lower in NGRI cases upon release.

Thanks for raising this point, I learned some things!

Links below:

https://sci-hub.se/10.1002/cbm.2120
https://sci-hub.se/10.1016/j.fsiml.2020.100033

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Thanks for digging into this! Very informative.

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I believe that is the case where the defendant was found guilty, unlike here. In this case, the person was found not guilty of murder, yet still was held for 10 years.

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But wasn’t he found not guilty because of the insanity plea? If he hadn’t pleaded insanity, presumably he would get a different sentence. My question is whether that would likely have been longer or shorter than the 10 years he ended up serving.

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The unfortunate reality is our system doesn’t typically rehabilitate anyone. So, it’s understandable that people are incredulous. I wish things would change. Never seems to be much political interest in how prisoners are treated.

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Regular people thinking they know more than experts + internet forums. Name a more iconic duo.

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Justice is not only about rehabilitation, a punitive component serves the common good.

That may sound barbaric, but consider an alternative where prisoners are released as soon as they are rehabilitated (i.e. when it is clear that they no longer pose a threat to society):

  • A man is killed by a drunk driver. The driver is fully repentant and it is very quickly clear to all that they will never drink again, much less drink and drive. The driver is released as soon as this is clear.

  • The man’s son is horrified that the driver was punished so lightly. He kills the driver in revenge. But it is clear this will never happen again, you can only lose your father to drunk driving once. The killer is soon released.

  • The driver’s son is horrified that his father’s killer was punished so lightly. Since nobody else will do anything, he kills his father’s killer in revenge. Clearly he can never do this again …

See the problem? Judicial punishment isn’t about some vague societal bloodlust, it’s an intercession that prevents unsatisfied victims from taking matters into their own hands and starting an endless vendetta.

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This is the most idiotic whataboutism I’ve ever seen. You know there are other countries that focus on rehabilitation, countries that do not have repeat offenders like we do, right? Stop justifying a clearly broken system with theoretical nonsense, especially when that nonsense is already disproven elsewhere.

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There are certainly countries that strongly focus on rehabilitating prisoners, which is admirable.

But even in countries like Norway, which is a good example of the above, prisoners are not automatically released once they are rehabilitated or no longer deemed a threat. They must always serve a certain fraction of their sentence regardless, which demonstrates that at least part of the original sentence was punitive in nature.

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It’s not just American, retribution is a component of sentencing in most developed countries. No adult justice system is purely rehabilitative.

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All my data points relied on actually data and trends rather than needing a highly unlikely hypothetical. Furthermore, the only issue with your hypothetical is the continuing view of the killers being a retributive one as well, they, and anyone with a retributive view on crime is the problem. The goal of our justice system is not (at least in most of the developed world), the US excepted and should not be to make another human suffer until, paraphrasing your own words, the original victim is satisfied.

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The goal of the justice system is partly rehabilitative and partly retributive. This is true throughout “the developed world”.

People can be sentenced to life imprisonment without the possibility of parole in the UK, Italy, Austria, and the Netherlands among other places. That sentence is incompatible with a purely rehabilitative justice system.

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The onion article writes itself

“Dude who ate someone’s brain is out in the streets after saying ‘I won’t do it again’ enough times”

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