18 points

THIS IS ACTUALLY SO REAL FUCKING SMARTPHONES I HATE STEVE JOBS FUCK YOU WHY DID YOU RUIN TECHNOLOGY.

ok rant over, but seriously though, it’s so fucked how you basically just need a smartphone to do ANYTHING these days. I don’t want a phone, i have no use for one.

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5 points

Not sure if we can really blame Steve Jobs for this though, he wasn’t around when things turned to shit. The iPhone he introduced was merely a phone, web browser, email and music player.

I think it’s fair if we blame Tim Apple for this and the other big tech CEO’s of the recent past.

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1 point

In Flanders, 🇧🇪, teachers have a card that gives them certain benefits. Free acces to musea, exhibitions,… This year they made it app only. You need to buy a smartphone to get your benefits…

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10 points

I’m young and I fucking hate apps. I have android phone without a google account which works well for the most part. I’m too dumb to install LineageOS. and Linux phones aren’t really an option in the US.

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1 point

Why are they no option in the US?

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1 point

Carrier support is pretty much non-existant from what I have seen.

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6 points

I use a dumbphone. I’m not buying a smartphone just so I can play these stupid games, and I’m installing an app for every fucking business I interact with. I realize there will one day be a point where I won’t be able to do things I need to do without one, but until then I have no desire for one. Fortunately they haven’t made the parking meters here require a smartphone yet.

My grocery store still uses loyalty cards for most discounts (which is irritating enough), but also has “digital coupons” that require an app so I can’t get that. Theoretically I could go to their website and print them off but that’s not worth the effort. I have to pay close attention to the price signs they put up because some of them say “with digital coupon” in small print, meaning “not for you, bitch”. You know who doesn’t pull this kind of shit? Walmart. So I wind up getting a lot of my groceries there so as not to be discriminated against.

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2 points

Flipphones… I want a full keyboard phone again. Maybe even a slider full keyboard. Those were the days.

Apps… I evade most apps as much as i can or if i must use closed source apps, i will put them in a secondary profile.

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Do NOT give these fucking cunts any fucking money. I was a backer for this phone on indiegogo.

They are liars when they eventually did communicate any updates during the project. They produced around 2000 units, most of which were sent to people who backed the project years after the first backers on indiegogo because they backed on a different platform.

Ultimately they just shut down the kickstarter giving no actual details. They stole thousands of peoples money through that. They made a product with the money people contributed to back the project and then just shuttered the project so they wouldn’t need to deliver a device to these backers.

I didn’t realise they were now trying to sell them again but the units that did get shipped were massively out of date and barely worked as it is.

If you want a keyboard on a phone Unihertz are about your only option right now.

Fuck planet computers, thieving fucking cunts

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12 points

I’m open to hear if you guys disagree with me, but that is not simply about not having a smartphone as much as it is about not having cell service, not using data service. If a person uses a libre VoIP app, there is no need for cell service, and people actually can live happy lives disconnected from internet when they are outside or in public.

Society must revert their mentality and not expect constant immediate access to everything. Absolutely nothing happens on the internet for personal activity that can’t wait a few hours or the next day.

I use phone only for direct communication, zero multimedia, zero social media on phone. Everything else is done on computer. Especially banking, that is on computer website only for security, never on phone. I despise and resent using a phone for websites

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It is more about being able to constantly spy on everyone. Funny how this exact sentence would have labeled one as a conspiracy nut not too long ago.

Constantly online means constant (more or less) analytics, means constant data to throw in the big computer to make you buy more shit or vote for the shit party.

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Society must revert their mentality and not expect constant immediate access to everything. Absolutely nothing happens on the internet for personal activity that can’t wait a few hours or the next day.

yeah ok so, counterpoint, you pull up to an EV charging station (it’s tesla because of course it’s tesla) please show me where the card reader is. I’ll wait.

oh but what about the non tesla charging stations you might say. those are still iffy right now, i’m hopeful they’ll improve in the future, but a lot of them have readers (that may or may not work) and a phone app (that may or may not work) also whose to say they don’t just fucking disappear.

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If a person uses a libre VoIP app, there is no need for cell service

I don’t follow. Don’t you need internet for VoIP? Unless the point is to have a phone that gets zero connection while outside a wifi, which sounds kinda pointless?

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Correct, use VoIP with wi-fi service instead of cell and data. It also makes the calls untraceable for location for best privacy practices. There’s no way to trace where in the world a phone is if using wi-fi to call standard phone numbers. For personal calling, not a work phone, some people don’t care about messages and calling when they are out walking, shopping, attending events. They want to focus on the real world around them, not phone stuff.

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56 points

I for one cheer and root for my flip phone friends.

I’d never do it, but we have one at work and he’s singlehandedly causing so much grief at work. Because none of the engineers wanna use a security app for login. They want a fob.

IT refuses to pay for fobs and wants us to use an app, but they also don’t want to pay for a phone for anyone in engineering just to use the security app because it opens a floodgate of people with company phones.

It’s just wonderful to watch this fight from the sidelines sipping tea.

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I’d never do it, but we have one at work and he’s singlehandedly causing so much grief at work.

tell him the funny internet man that replied to you told him that he was based and that we collectively appreciate his efforts of basedness.

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I have no smartphone and am unable to access any of my college resources or email from home because you need a security app for remote login. I’ve got in trouble a few times for it but idk what I’m supposed to do. I wasn’t able to access my Exam Timetable because of this and had to ask some friends when the exams were because my teachers didn’t know (somehow). It’s very annoying.

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It also took a few weeks of difficulty to get the free bus pass the college gives out as they only gave it out on the bus pass app, I have a card that you scan, I’ve never had any issues with the card and yet EVERY day people complain about the app not working as you need an internet connection (in an area with dodgy internet) for the app and the app is apparently not very good in other areas. I think people are starting to get jealous of my bus pass card.

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4 points

You could install an android emulator on your personal computer then run the authenticator from there.

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BRB pulling up to a QR code scanner with my 15 inch thinkpad w520 running on 92whr of battery consuming literal watts of power because it’s from 2012.

Hopefully i’m not an inconvenience.

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4 points

@toynbee @DeaDvey aren’t there authenticators that run on desktop browsers? Or does it have to be a specific one

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2 points

The authenticator requires you to be in the college’s network to set it up for the first time and I don’t have a laptop.

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8 points

what’s the rationale for IT not wanting to pay for the fobs?

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4 points

Presumably they’re expensive and someone needs to manage them.

My company’s approach is “we’ll pay your phone bill if you use an Authenticator app on your phone.” Cheaper for them, plus they don’t need to buy company phones or fobs, and who’s going to complain about their phone bill getting paid?

A previous company tried similar but required putting your phone under enterprise management. A lot of us disagreed with that

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4 points

They’re not expensive at all.

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3 points

Managers probably sold apps as a cost cutting measure

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My job does this too. It’s literally just cost cutting. The fobs expire and need to be replaced every so often but the app lasts “forever”.

IMO the fobs pay for themselves because what they are spending on fobs is the same as what they’re spending on IT members answering calls all day for employees that are having login issues with the app.

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5 points

I worked a job where I had to have an app that tracked me wherever I went. I finally had to tell my boss I couldn’t use it anymore because it was killing my battery in like 3 hours.

If I was still working and a job wanted me to put an app on my personal phone I’d tell them to go fuck themselves.

Just another way capitalists thieve money from its workers.

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I for one cheer and root for my flip phone friends.

Why are you cheering for a lack of self-control?

Smartphones are great. You just need to be smart enough to not let them use you.

It should put into perspective who is a useful idiot, and who is not.

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2 points

Perhaps his friends do not have smart phones, because they do not want smart phones.

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