Summary

Twenty-one staffers from Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) resigned, citing ethical concerns over dismantling public services and compromising sensitive data.

Formerly part of the U.S. Digital Service, they criticized Musk and Trump’s overhaul, which included layoffs and politically charged interviews.

Their letter warned that removing skilled technologists endangers essential services like Social Security and veterans’ benefits.

The resignations add to growing concerns over Musk’s aggressive federal cuts, amplified by his recent CPAC speech where he symbolically wielded a chainsaw against “bureaucracy.”

159 points

I am always confused why they don’t just sabotage the efforts? Like it would be so easy and they definitely aren’t paying attention…

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142 points

Different people are able to take on different levels of risk.

Just because these people resigned doesn’t mean that some other people aren’t staying in for the purposes of being subversive, and you shouldn’t ever hear about the latter.

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That’s the thing, though. They’re not really taking risks.

Much of what DOGE does is completely illegal and does not go through the proper channels and processes. By simply doing their jobs and forcing everything through the proper processes, they can slow down everything, maybe even to a halt, while being completely in the right and thus can’t be fired.

Yes, it takes a mental toll, but these guys have a responsibility.

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12 points

They’re unemployed government workers, there are less government jobs now than ever, and their resume literally says DOGE on it. They are taking a risk.

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60 points

Sabatoge can carry extremely harsh legal penalties, particularly if it has any type of lasting impact. Beyond that, just phoning it in and doing a bad job can slow things down but doesn’t actually stop it. If you’re then let go it’s on their pace, it looks worse for you and it’s less noticeable.

A mass resignation can be the only thing some people can do. It sends a message, it gets noticed outside the organization, and it lets objective news reporting share your motivation, which would normally fall under opinion.
It also leaves a big gap in the organization that isn’t getting anything done.

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26 points

but… he who saves his country can not break the law. right??!

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18 points

Guys, dumping tea in the harbor is illegal, just pay your taxes to the crown. It’s just a king, everyone has one

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Can’t persecute you for sabotage if it just happens to coincide with proper office protocol.

Simple Sabotage Field Manual

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2 points

Not if you make an Italian strike. You are following every single step of the process, taking the time needed, all by the book. And when the higher rank says something then everyone working resigns all at once.

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Lol getting fired doesn’t look bad. It doesn’t look like anything because you aren’t legally required to tell a future employer if you were fired, and they can’t ask the previous employer

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13 points

It’s public information if a government employee is terminated, and there’s nothing stopping them from reaching out to the previous employer.

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3 points

I’m pretty sure any future employee that saw you were fired after Trump took power (because you didn’t express loyalty to a fascist) would see this as a good thing.

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43 points

Mostly the risk of jail, probably.

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17 points

Or execution.

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Or stochastic terrorism

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One aspect is that working in that kind of system destroys your mental health. Having to play games to hide the good things, trying to mitigate the bad things. It’s pressure.

My state has been basically been doing Project 2025 for the past five years. I had a friend in an important position in a fascist overtaken state organization who held on for a long time, fighting the good fight - but it drains. She fought her fucking hardest, but a human being can only fight for so long.

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The kurds have been fighting a war from the desert for decades, but Americans get whipped by paperwork and call it a day

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10 points

Well, we can’t shoot our fascists yet. It would probably be pretty helpful with the mental health part.

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5 points

I feel like there will be a “How To Count To 10 In American” video coming out in the next 4-8 years.

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Because they don’t disagree with it, they only can’t bring themselves to be the ones with the blood on their hands. Otherwise they don’t care what happens.

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10 points

I know everything is bad now, but not everyone is bad all the time.

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Relevant bit from the article, because some of y’all apparently comment before reading:

The staffers who resigned were all originally employees of the United States Digital Service, a technology unit established during President Obama’s second term in 2014. The unit was renamed and reorganized in January via executive order by Trump into the Musk-headed DOGE.

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My understanding is: Founding a new Department can only be done by Congress, so they had to “redefine” (more like corrupt) an existing one.

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I have seen some news sites giving this with headlines like “DOGE Goons resign” without the part you just quoted of course. top notch newsmanship

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Yeah, they renamed it to DOGE, presumably because using the term duke would be off putting to their drone followers. Then they gave the organization a fuck ton more authority and ignored judicial rulings. What does any of it have to do with Obama though?

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It has nothing to do with Obama. Is that a trigger word for you or something? It’s because of comments like this.

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Trigger word? I was asking why they are trying to tie an authoritarian move to a president who left office in the way a democratic Republic set up over 2 terms ago.

Have fun with your buzzwords.

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5 points

The agency that got renamed was formed during his presidency?

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It’s not uncommon to mention the president who started an agency in little blurbs describing their history. Like with the Environmental Protection Agency & Nixon.

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77 points

Holy shit you guys are proper fucked. America went full retard

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13 points

You ain’t seen nuthin yet!

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4 points

That’s the spirit!

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3 points

We are proper fucked. No need to bring ableist slurs into it, though.

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15 points

Ehh, pretty sure he’s going off the movie Tropic Thunder so it’ll slide

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Have you ever called someone an idiot?

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3 points

I’ll call you one if you think that word carries the same stigma.

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2 points

It’s like Elon Musk and Donald Trump are both pissing down a volcano and not expecting it to burn their dicks off.

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2 points

He will blame us Europeans.

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77 points

Those are the ones you want to stay. They have ethics.

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36 points

No, no, that’s the point. This is a feature, not a bug.

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6 points

It’s a tough decision. People are afraid of retaliation. No one wants to end up in the Nuremberg trials

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2 points

to me, it seems like a good thing if lots of people refuse to cooperate, refuse to be made instruments of this regime. enough people refuse and the regime is disempowered.

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4 points

Then they get replaced by loyalists. It’s what Trump has been doing for weeks. Installing loyalists in every part of thr government.

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54 points

And 21 loyalists (yes, america, you’re heading to monarchy) will be hired to fill those spots and nobody is left to resist.

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They were doge staffers, wouldn’t they already be loyalists? Edit: nvm, down the thread explanations that it was a department already that got converted to doge

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