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I have been using Tailscale VPN with my servers for about 6 months now and I would recommend it to anyone.

I’m running it on both of my Proxmox machines, my laptop, a raspberry pi, and my Android phone. It makes it super easy and secure to access my local services while away from my house.

Very simple set up, minimal initial configuration, and versatile.

There are apps for Linux, Windows, Mac, Android, and iOS.

Is anyone else currently using Tailscale? I’d like to hear what you all think.

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It’s not self-hosted, I refuse to use anything that relies on any third party

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You could checkout a very similar product, ZeroTier (Open Source Community Edition) assuming your use case is non-commercial.

… if you’re willing to use an older release, you could potentially do whatever you want as the software uses a BSL license with a change date fallback license of Apache 2.0.

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Check out Headscale, pretty stable on my end

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Does using headscale reduce the available functionality in any way? I read Tailscale’s AMAZING article on NAT traversal and was wondering if that was impacted by moving to headscale in any way. Does headscale replace DERP too?

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Does heads ale replace DERP too?

Headscale does have a built-in DERP server, and you can run standalone instances using code from tailscale (there are a bunch of docker images you can find on docker hub, or you can build one yourself), which you then have to include in Headscale’s config. I’ve done this for a while, but I was running into connectivity issues when on the go using a mobile connection, so I’ve been falling back on Tailscale’s instances for now. I should try again sometime.

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I don’t know the technicals that well, but I can see relays working if I run tailscale status. You don’t get some enterprise/business features like access control, but I can be wrong.

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This looks like a paid business vpn… are you even hosting it? I don’t get it

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If you want to self host, you can run the API server yourself with headscale.

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I didn’t actually know this. Now I won’t get anything done on my honey-do list this weekend…

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Neat

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It’s free for personal use, although they offer paid versions for enterprise. It’s built using Wireguard, so there is a coordination server that’s accessed using the web app, but all the traffic is encrypted from client to client.

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The free license is so generous that a home user really should have no reason to ever pay for it.

are you even hosting it

No but as andrew mentions below you CAN self host it.

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It’s not self-hosted but it’s incredibly useful for self-hosting as it makes public access to locally hosted services a breeze. It’s user-friendly, feature-rich and scalable.

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U can use headscale and make it pretty much 100% self hosted

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I hope it becomes easier to deploy for less techie users.

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That’s awesome to hear. I’m looking to set up some self-hosted stuff, and I see a lot of recommendations for Tailscale for the VPN element.

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According to them it’s a way to get individual enthusiasts on board who will then get their workplaces to adopt Tailscale.

“In capitalism we call this a win/win deal. You get free stuff. You enjoy it. You tell your boss. Your boss gives us money (eventually). And nobody’s personal information got misplaced along the way. You did pay us—by talking about us.” https://tailscale.com/blog/free-plan/

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It’s not a trick at all. They want personal users to use it on the chance they then introduce it to work.

They are a very positive company that supports the FOSS community. It is a great product.

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You only get 3 users with the free version

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how many do you want? I only use 1 and have 4 networks with multiple subnet routers in failover in each network.

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Anyone like me, one or two is fine. If you’re a business, that won’t be sufficient.

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