I remember China more or less supporting Russia here and there, during the beginning of the Ukraine War. If this is wrong please correct me (this goes for everything) . So now Trump and Putin are basically allies. However as far as I know, Trump is still anti-China.

So, now what? Where in all this new found alliance leaves the US (and Russia) relationship with China? What is likely to happen, generally speaking? Will Russia cut ties with China? Will Trump get close with China now? I feel like Jinping and Trump are kind of squabbling over Putin’s affection right now, and I don’t know if that analogy is valid.

World War 3 will be USA + Russia and its allies VS China + their allies VS Europe and their allies

(okay maybe this is unrealistic, but its a cool speculative fiction story with a 3 sided world war)

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At least the last years of humanity will be SPICY!

At this point, WW3 can only help the planet. Kill us all quickly to prevent us from destroying the planet any further. Fuck it, guys. Why not?

We are so far behind on even the illusion of progress on climate and this fiasco is only rocketing us away from it.

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Trump is “Russia’s bitch”. That is not true of China. Maybe China gets sloppy seconds, but it’s otherwise not changing anything.

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Generally speaking Trump is not getting into an alliance with Russia, but rather joins the “multipolar” club of imperialists that want to carve out their own sphere of influence without the others interfereing. China agrees with this but there are other reasons why the interests of the US and China still clash.

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I’m pretty sure the purpose of Trump’s pivot on Russia is to drive a wedge between Russia and China.

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Devil’s advocate opinion.

After spending a fair bit of time in China, I’ve come to understand one thing. A weaker America is good for China, but, China does not want to lead the world. Sloppy seconds works better from China.

Many years ago, Richard Branson, wrote that in his fight with British Airways, he actually preferred being second. This because nobody is gunning for you. Everyone always guns for gold, but a silver is not a bad thing either but nobody is in the race thinking, golly, I’m going for silver this time.

So, China has no real interest in the liabilities that come with leading the world. It’s a headache that does not benefit them. Own the infrastructure, mine the planet, sell plastic crap, that is fine, but rule the world, problems. Everyone turns to you for solutions or is trying to bring you down. Better to just chill.

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This has been my view of China too; good to see it backed by a random internet person.

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