it’s like you believe you can tariff them expecting they won’t do the same. Why do you believe the rest of the world is not going to retaliate and why do you believe America can prosper without the rest of the world?

What’s the point of having a military alliance with countries you puts tariffs on? That’s unfriendly to say the least.

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To cripple the US so it is no longer a threat to Russia, and they can move in to “reclaim” all those Baltic nations and maybe even cop the EU.

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Not just Russia. Any kind of meaningful restraint on multinational corps & billionaires requires international cooperation, or the entity just changes the region where it stores/performs/recognizes whatever thing.

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I think we’re gonna learn the hard way its actually not okay to let corporations become more powerful than most nations.

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look at moussilini and hitler. they all sided with him

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Good luck finding many of them around here. They find out pretty quickly that they aren’t welcome.

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If they were capable of thinking critically, they wouldn’t be Republicans in the first place.

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The people you need to hear from aren’t using Lemmy.

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OP should try Truth Social, I hear it’s technically a Mastodon fork…

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Ew.

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I mean, yeah, but it’s where they would actually find conservatives…

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It’s mastodon? I thought it was a different fediverse platform.

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https://www.pcmag.com/news/trumps-social-media-site-quietly-admits-its-based-on-mastodon

Trump’s Social Media Site Quietly Admits It’s Based on Mastodon

Mastodon had originally threatened to sue Trump’s ‘Truth Social’ site for allegedly violating its open-source license.

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Can you imagine them federating their content? What a stream of odd toots that would be!

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It would be gab all over again

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Whoa!!!

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OP’s also not going to get an answer that’s interesting or helpful out of them even if you go to where they live and ask and don’t get immediately flamed for asking.

There’s no acceptable answer for it. I have plenty of conservative friends and I could make sense of voting for Trump the first time. Not for me, FUCK that, but not all Trump v1 supporters were racists and there were valid conservative reasons to vote for him. He was definitely an unknown, nobody could have told you with certainty how he would act once in office. I could have told you what I expected and it was about as horrible as I expected, but people often see things in politicians that they want to see, rather than seeing what’s really there.

But any of the “OK to vote for Trump v1” falls apart completely for Trump v2. We saw what his first term was like and especially how it ended. His campaign in 2024 was even more unhinged and less grounded in reality than in 2016. Voting for him in 2024 is really inexcusable.

The US will be unimaginably worse off by the time Trump leaves office this time, tariffs and tax cuts for the rich and inflation, it’s going to be bad for Americans on an individual level. On a global level, Trump will have shredded alliances and any goodwill we had built up over the past decades, while also validating and confirming the world’s worst concerns about us.

And when Trump does finally leave office, the people you want to hear from will largely feel like it was a phenomenal presidency. It is a cult and logic and reason don’t have anything to do with it.

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I’d love to believe this, but cynical me is thinking about those conservatives that look at Milei in Argentina and legitimately think it’s going great.

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Milei’s performance really does depend on your metric.

If all you care about is inflation and regulations, then he’s doing all right. Somewhere between fantastic and “eh, he’s getting there” depending on how you squint.

If you care about how many people are in poverty, or struggling to eat, he has been a disaster.

Conservatives don’t care about suffering. The suffering is natural. Life is hard. Lots of people are losers. Trying to stop the suffering just moves the pain from people who deserve to suffer (the poor) to people who don’t deserve it. (The rich)

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Conservative on sh.itjust.works appears to be conservatives.

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I have my doubts about that. Most of the mass posters are too “conservative” and lean extremely hard into stereotypes. They take racism and bigotry just a bit too far in many cases and it doesn’t quite align with actual conservative bigots and racists that I know.

It wouldn’t be surprising if most of the “conservative” communities are part of the same troll farm that lives primarily on other instances.

This is all speculation, of course. But, organized campaigns to spread discourse on social media are real and some of these trolls are really good at what they do.

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Nahh, they were pretty conservativy when I tried to interact with them.

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Sadly true. We actively searched for alternatives when we realised other channels were getting too manipulative and full of hate. Those who stayed haven’t even realised it.

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Some of them are, you just have to scroll way way way down

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They don’t care about cooperation, everything is a deal to them. If some other country has something, we don’t. The entire worldview of Republicans is just capitalism, if something can’t be framed in terms of profit it’s not worth pursuing.

They’re fucking Ferengis

Edit: as others have correctly pointed out, at least Ferengis have standards. This might be a disservice to them.

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Ferengis were meant to be a caricature of our current society, so yes, Ferengi fits.

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Don’t insult Ferengis. They’re actually smart.

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And comply with contracts

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They’ve been whitewashed over time as ST gets farther from the left. The OG ferengi would only have complied with a contract if they thought they’d get caught breaking it, which is honestly a more accurate satire.

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