119 points

That explains all the AI crap they’ve been chasing for a while now. They’ve been trying to juice up the value to make it look appealing to potential buyers because you can basically slap “AI” on anything and it instantly shoots up in value.

Discord is effectively dead if this goes through.

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If they’re courting buyers, it’s already dead. It’s just not started to stink yet.

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They also put ads on the screen and have been shilling their apps for a while now. There is not even a button to go to the webapp on their mobile site, you have to switch to desktop mode just to get in.

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It has been in the works from the very beginning. They dropped their mask when things got put behind paywalls and they started censoring criticism. Hell they artificially pumped up emote slots on servers they were secretly running just to get the most users on them. why? To control the narrative. Those servers had the most users for this reason and their owners were thrilled about becoming essentially redundant over night which was more than just a little suspicious until they got found out. They also run their subreddit where they also censored any criticism for this weird bait and switch.

To those who say „who cares about emotes?“ I can only reply: You‘re missing the point. It‘s not about the what but the how. Discord is a sleazy company that gaslights their users to an extreme degree sometimes.

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much like reddit its other counterpart is doing right now. Juicing up its value by “eliminating tons of accts regardless of the status of those acc”

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87 points

Start making your plans for a replacement because it will be going to shit soon.

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Now is the time for Matrix to improve usability and whatnot, because I think that’s the most credible replacement.

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I really wish Matrix had been more successful, but it has some pretty core problems that prevented it from gaining more traction.

It fell into the same trap as XMPP, though perhaps even worse, with a focus more on its protocol and specification than a single unified product vision. The reference server implementation is slow, and using a language not optimal for its purpose, with alternative server implementations left incomplete and unsupported. It took a long time for them to figure out voice and video and for it to work well, and the “user flow” still isn’t at Discord levels.

I’ve rooted for Matrix for a long time, but as a former XMPP evangelist, to me the writing on the wall says it isn’t suited for success either. I’d love to be wrong, but I don’t see a way through.

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What do you think the main problems are?

In terms of performance, there’s Rust in the synapse repo already, and both Conduit (Rust) and Dendrite (Go) seem viable. If one of those projects reaches parity with Synapse, do you think that’ll “fix” matrix?

If not, are there other issues core to matrix design? I’m not that familiar with matrix except as an occasional user that follows a few tech rooms, but I’d love to help out if I’m pointed in the right direction. I’m comfortable with Rust and Go (and do Python at my day job), so if backend performance is a bottleneck, I could make help out.

But if the problems are fundamental to how it’s designed or how the project operates, I’d rather work on other things.

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RevoltChat?

Revolt Chat GitHub

Revolt Self-Hosted

Revolt Wiki

r/revoltchat

Although, I’m honestly surprised that there isn’t a Fediverse equivalent/Alternative to Discord.

IK that platforms like Matrix exist, but what I’m talking about is a federated platform that’s a clone of Discord.

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5 points

I tried revolt a year or so ago and it was pretty rough

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interesting; is revolt self hosted too or is it just purely a discord alternative? it looks almost identical from screenshots.

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The trouble with relying on each community to self-host is that it’s unlikely to ever make it to the masses that way. Self-hosting is a significant barrier.

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38 points

gentlemen start your enshittification.

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Great time to start working on a replacement… if you have several million hanging around.

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I guess it’s back to ventrilo.

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I can’t wait for Discord to enshittify so that lazy devs can’t say “join our Discord for updates and support!” anymore.

Hate that shit.

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It’s quite shit already

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11 points

Fiiiiiiiiiinally.

How can it not be awful for them too? Like users may even try to ✌️search Discord✌️ for their issue only to come up short and have fo ask a question asked a million times already. Gross.

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7 points

It seems unlikely that will stop, at least with any speed, TBH.

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Somehow this post has negative down votes and I’m all for it.

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