185 points

I think the only one that can solve all of their problems is elon. He would fix it in few weeks. Include him in next launch, he will troubleshoot directly on the Moon. Please, someone, send that asshole to space.

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57 points

And he’s so full of hot air he doesn’t even need a suit.

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17 points

He would try to smoke the moon regolith and come up with some rad ideas. Occupy Moon! Yeeeeaah

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9 points

Elon in his Cave Johnson era and we’re here for it

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4 points

That would be awesome. It’s pretty much super asbestos.

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I mean, I would too, just to see if the moon is special.

I mean look, scientists (and random bored people) for thousands of years did the same thing. Tasted things, consumed things to see what they do…

Has anyone smoked the moon yet? No. So we don’t actually know. We can speculate it does nothing, but we don’t know.

Maybe snort moon dust? Probably more practical.

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20 points

Had me in the first half, ngl

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6 points

Haha, that was the idea 🤣

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68 points

I’d like to share a design concept with IM given that this is their second moon topple:

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3 points

Weebles wobble, but they don’t fall down!

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5 points

I mean, you’re not wrong. A low center of mass is legitimately a good idea.

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The first one fell over and sank into the swamp crater.

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21 points

Sooooo we built another one

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23 points

That sank into a crater. So we built a third one. That burned down, fell over, and then sank into a crater. But the fourth one stayed up. And that’s what you’re going to get, Lad, the strongest spacecraft on all of the Moon.

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16 points

But I just want to sing

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28 points

Breaking news, space is really really hard

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It’s not space that’s hard. It’s the stuff you encounter when you run out of space that’s hard.

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3 points

Like when you run into me bc I’m hard 4 u bb. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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3 points

A hard void.

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26 points

Well that’s a facepalm of a faceplant 😂

You’d almost think that by now they might have learned something from the Voyager 1 and 2 power systems and not relied completely on solar power…

https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/news/voyager-mission-anniversary-rtg-radioisotope-thermoelectric-generator/

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33 points

The biggest problem with RTGs is the extreme cost and lack of availability. Pu-238 is very expensive and at any moment, there’s only tens of KG of Pu-238 available for RTG use. They’re not really a reasonable choice for private industry at this time.

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5 points

As true as that is, they said that it cost them hundreds of millions of dollars, and the mission was only planned to last from 10 to 14 days or so. They could have used just a piece of a waste uranium rod or something as an alternate power source for such a short-lived mission.

I mean yeah, of course that would still add to the cost and complexity, and I don’t even know what all that would take, but hell if you’re already into the hundreds of millions of dollars range, you ought to consider redundancy and alternate power sources.

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18 points

I imagine it’s more complicated than that. For example, Pu-238 only emits alpha radiation. I doubt that reactor waste only emits alpha radiation, meaning you’d have to harden the electronics for a close and potentially extreme emitter of beta/gamma radiation. I also don’t know if random high grade reactor waste gets hot enough to provide meaningful amounts of energy via thermoelectric means. Alternatively, it may be that it gets too hot.

I doubt they could have simply slapped something together. The cost of developing a new RTG capable of using reactor waste would likely be a significant fraction of the budget to develop the probe itself. It might have been worth it, but I feel that it’s not clear-cut.

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7 points

Eh… I think they should stick to solar power. Given how much trouble they’ve been having, let’s not give them any weapons grade isotopes…

For what it’s worth, just last week, Firefly stuck the landIng on their first attempt. They’re seriously killing it these days, I’m happy for them.

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4 points

Solar power? On the south pole of the moon?

That would just barely work on its own, even if the thing didn’t topple over.

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Would it barely work, or would it always work?

If you plan to land on the pole, at a high altitude, you could potentially have direct line of sight to the sun 24/7 all year round. From the ground, the sun would appear to travel left to right along the horizon, making a full circle over the course of a month. You just need your solar panels pointed to the sides, not up.

However, if they aren’t directly on the pole, they could still plan their landing to be in a location that gets sunlight for 15 earth days straight, with 0 interruption. As that might be more than the necessary time period for their experiments, that’s probably perfect. And that doesn’t even require being at a high elevation.

Also, being on the pole doesn’t result in dimmer sunlight than on the equator like it would on earth. No atmosphere means the poles get the same completely unfiltered sunlight.

Look, the vast majority of lunar landers (and there have been quite a few) have used solar power, it’s the obvious choice in space.

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2 points

I don’t think it’d matter much. On earth the poles get less light, even in summer, because the angle of the sun is low so it has to pass through more atmosphere. This isn’t true on the moon, obviously. The angle will be really low on the south pole, but as long as it’s in sunlight it doesn’t matter where it is. There are locations on the poles of the moon that never get sunlight, but I suspect it wasn’t going there.

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8 points

They also used the same design of a prior craft that met the same fate. But private industry are problem solvers. 🙄

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