“Canadians may have gone in for wokeness in recent years, it is true, but there is the matter of their bloody-minded DNA. It was not that long ago that they harvested baby seals—the ones with the big, sad, adorable brown eyes—with short iron clubs. They love hockey, a sport that would have pleased the emperors and blood-crazed plebeians and patricians of ancient Rome if they could only have figured out how to build an ice rink in the Colosseum.” 😅

59 points

No Canada didn’t go for wokeness, get your head out of your ass.

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At this point even the pro-Canada American takes are pissing me off honestly

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Canada is a much more left-wing country than the United States, and absorbing it could well revive the political fortunes of progressives

I’m also getting really fucking sick of this talking point. We’re not going to vote in American elections because we’re not going to be American and I don’t even want to hear any thought exercises on the subject

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22 points

As if they would give us senators and equal voting rights. The US is now a hostile rogue nation on par with the DPRK and Venezuela as far as I’m concerned.

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10 points

as an American this is a stupid point because our democracy is over

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39 points

Free Healthcare is woke to an American.

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35 points

Anything that benefits anyone who isn’t rich and white is woke.

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15 points

Everything I disagree with is woke DEI communist terrorism!

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14 points

As if being “woke” is a bad thing anyway.

Better than sleepwalking into fascism.

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43 points

Canada has always been “woke”. What? You want to sleepwalk into a dictatorship?

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That’s not what it says

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36 points

The last time Americans fucked with Canada… the Whitehouse and DC were burned to the ground.

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True but a lot has changed in that time and all out warfare would not be good for us.

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Warfare is good for no one. Family members dead or starved, or ‘interned’ - decades of PTSD and generational trauma (3-generations of that brought home by my grandfather from WWII)

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Politicians hide themselves away

They only started the war

Why should they go out to fight?

They’ll leave that up to the poor!

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4 points

At this point, I wouldn’t mind seeing a reenactment.

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2 points

That was the british army. Its not correct to say canada did that.

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We (Americans) also basically failed at nearly every single engagement that was an attempted incursion into British/Canadian territory or attack on a British fort/settlement west of the US proper, they were pretty much all either repulsed, or only initially successful for a short amount of time and then driven out.

I could be wrong, but I am willing to bet that many of those soldiers opposing the Americans involved in initial American incursions into Canada were British soldiers who lived in Canada, and/or were Native/First Nations allies of the British, and are thus proto-Canadians, unlike the Royal Navy and Marines who showed up in force within about a year, and were then withdrawn after the US basically sued for peace.

I agree that it’s an oversimplification to view the entire war as just US vs a nascent Canada, but I also think it’s an oversimplification to view the entire war as the US vs the UK.

Also I didn’t state that Canadians burned down DC. I said that the last time the US fucked with Canada, the result was our capitol being burned down.

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Sure, but The Geneva Convention is quite literally a list of things that The Canadians did in WWI that we collectively agreed was going a bit too far for war.

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3 points

And we will do it again

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There are way too many people talking about hypotheticals and trying to do “logical” thinking why attacking allies is a bad idea.

The powers in the USA are NOT LOGICAL. They are cutting social systems, they are tanking their stock market, causing irreparable harm to their economy, and military industrial system.

Talking about it like its “logical”, and coming from the USA where their media, the people that are supposed to know what’s going on and communicating it to the USA public is idiotic. They don’t even have the common curtesy to make sure that they have the corret titles and honorifics when talking to our leaders.

Governor Carney Prime Minster Ford Prime Minsiter Jolie

Fuck them all.

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This is what is so terrifying and makes this very real. They don’t care about logic, at least not what we think as logic.

However, I would argue that it is fairly logical overall for the United States to do this. I had a feeling it would happen eventually due to two main factors:

  • Climate change. They may deny it, but it’s a tactic to prevent the public from realizing this: the USA, along with many other countries, will not be able to run efficiently or even at all very soon because of the impacts from climate change. It is too costly to manage and management will not prevent the worst of it anyways. They will not have enough resources to sustain their population. Canada is incredibly resource dense and perhaps one of the better countries to live during the climate changes predicted. Although, on this note, New Zealand is probably poised better. I wonder if they aren’t targeting it because they have all their bunkers there already anyways, or if it’s on their list for the future. There’s also all of the new resources and trade route through the Arctic. I could go on but this point deserves a post of its own to lay out the full details.
  • A last “hurrah”, because they know the climate is changing at a rapid pace and there won’t be other chances to live out their dictator dreams. They want to be kings of the world, and this is likely humanity’s last chance to hold such a title. This is why they aren’t playing around with trying to make fair trade deals instead of just taking over. It’s not as fun. And trade deals are likely not as secure for them too, since, as we have seen, trade deals ultimately don’t mean shit.

When viewed through this lens, their potential plans don’t really sound so crazy.

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I agree with the lack of logic, as Trump yesterday announced wartime powers, using the pretense of being at war with gangs to justify the order.

That said, I don’t see any invasion being based upon any real need, even from an economic level. In fact, such an act will be extremely counterproductive and will harm not only their general economy, but the bottom line of many of their top businesses. Not to mention that any project to extract Canadian resources that aren’t already abundant in the US will take at least a half decade to even start producing, with profits only emerging two decades after any annexation at best.

And that presumes that any extraction is done quickly and smoothly. Frankly speaking, the issue is that to extract most things at scale, everything needs to be built up from the ground level, including roads.

That doesn’t even start with the liklihood of constant protests and vandalism, including some crazies that try to shoot out tires and critical equipment.

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including some crazies that try to shoot out tires and critical equipment.

You mean Canadian patriot insurgents.

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24 points

All aboard the war crimes express. Choo choo!

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Remember kids, it’s not a war crime the first time. Gonna have to go back to being creative.

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It’s also not a war crime if you’re not enlisted.

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Hmm liking all pows being forced to listen to the war of 1812 by three trolls in a baggie in a continuous loop with no rest as a start. But this is just an appetizer of an idea feel free to add to the menu

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