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Google is not a search engine. It’s an advertising service. Their whole business model revolves around a critical mass of eyeballs, which flock to free services. This will never happen for the average user.

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I wonder what happens when the time finally comes and they realize infinite growth is impossible. Black Friday II?

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1 point

If anyone ever figures out how to charge people service fees in the afterlife … there will be service fees in the afterlife

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13 points

As the saying goes- if the service is free, you’re not the customer.

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6 points

I’m pretty sure it’s a search engine…

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6 points

Por que no los dos?

Ostensibly yeah, the product being offered is a search engine. Realistically, the product being offered is a combination of your data, and your eyes/attention.

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3 points

yeah the days of Google search being king or long past over

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Eh, they’re turning Youtube into that and yet people buy premium so I would be careful to make any such predictions.

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It’s an advertising service, the way they serve ads is through attracting people to free searches.

It’s much like how a magazine is actually an ad service, but you can open a magazine to any random page and have a chance of not seeing an ad.

Or like how over the air television is actually an ad service, but you have a chance of turning it on at any random moment and not seeing an ad.

He’s not describing how Google attracts YOU. He’s taking about what Google actually sells, which is ads.

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If you say you’d pay for a search engine. Oof. Guys we used to just link useful things at the end of our blog posts and on our myspace pages. Then search engines came in and we didn’t have to. Then they killed the SEO placement of blogs. Now you can’t find anything useful unless you try their AI. The whole business model is convincing us we need them while they make the internet less efficient to scroll through.

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39 points

… do you think MySpace came before search engines?

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21 points

Replace Myspace with Geocities and it’s broadly correct of my experience in 90s internet.

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There were a ton of search engines in the 90s around the same time Geocities was released. AskJeeves was probably the most popular, but there was Altavista, Lycos, Dogpile, Yahoo… Shit, Google came out in 97, which was only a few years after Geocities.

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10 points

Webrings ftw

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7 points

Was altavista really a search engine?

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4 points

Lycos

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Technically yes, but there were also a ton more, including Google.

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I understand why you would pay and can respect it. But access to an organized and searchable internet is something closer to a right than a privilege, in my mind.

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28 points

Care to explain? Or you’re only capable of talking shit?

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18 points

You just dated the hell out of yourself, but also showed how young you are at the same time.

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2 points

Haha, I’m too young to really have lived it, I’m only 26 so… I did experience the start of Facebook and Twitter. I’m very glad people who did live through it are expanding on it.

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Yeah it sounds like you got online right when Web 2.0 was starting to really kick off. Back before then we did have search functions, though they were pretty primitive compared to what they’ve become now (and also before they went to shit with excessive SEO and advertising). Web 2.0 really marked the emphasis towards UX design and social network functionality within web sites/design, though people had links on their personal pages well before all that.

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73 points

Actual Internet funeral

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Pretty much https://kagi.com/ but outrageous

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Kagi is like google was 10 years ago though, useable and useful, while Google has morphed an SEO trashcan. I wouldn’t pay them any amount for current quality

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7 points

Isn’t their pricing per month not per query?

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$5 for 300 queries. $10 unlimited.

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They only changed that about a week ago, it used to be $10/1000 queries. Not that I’m complaining - I’m on that tier!

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5 points

The cheapest plan also has query limits.

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6 points

How is it outrageous to pay for a product? There are obvious reasons and benefits. Go use a free one then. No need to bash a good product because you don’t want it.

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I never said Kagi is, I said Google would be if they applied the pricing model.

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I’m down for the concept, but the pricing on Kagi is also pretty steep. $5/month for 300 searches? $10 unlimited. I have no doubt there are serious costs involved in providing search, but for a layman like me it feels way more than it should be. Does google even make $120/user/year on search, or even $60?

Anywho, I’d give it a go if it were cheaper, else, I’d rather be lightly advertised to on DuckDuckGo

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Eventually I will use the trial of it. I don’t feel like I actually do that many searches, and most are me looking up Pokemons while I play the games. So 300 searches per month doesn’t actually sound too bad, I can do my least important searches like my game ones on DDG.

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