• Apple’s progress with Siri and artificial intelligence has been slow, and features promised in June remain delayed.
  • At a Siri team meeting, senior director Robby Walker acknowledged the frustration within the team, describing the delays as “ugly.”
  • Features like Siri understanding personal context and taking action based on a user’s screen are still not ready and may not make it into iOS 19.
  • Challenges include quality issues that caused these features to malfunction up to a third of the time and conflicts with Apple’s marketing division over showcasing incomplete features.
  • Apple has withdrawn related advertisements and added disclaimers on its website, citing extended development times.
  • Senior executives, including Craig Federighi and John Giannandrea, are reportedly taking personal accountability for the delays.
  • Walker emphasized that the team’s work is impressive and that the delayed features will be released once they meet Apple’s standards.
259 points

This is what happens when you get pressure to please shareholders instead of customers. Historically, Apple has been good about revealing and delivering at the same time. But caught with their pants down during the AI hype, they fell into the trap so many other tech companies do. (Tesla is the undisputed heavyweight champ here)

Now that they’ve been burned by all this, here’s hoping they learn from it and return to form.

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Historically, Apple has been good about revealing and delivering at the same time.

I’m not so sure about that. MobileMe, iTunes Ping, Vision Pro, and AirPower (their wireless charging pad) come to mind.

“You’re holding it wrong”

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69 points

All of these things except the AirPad were released at about the same time they were announced. That’s what I was getting at.

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14 points

While they did get released when they said, they didn’t get released in the state that was stated/indicated though.

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18 points

Apple has had so many misses recently. The current AI stuff, Vision Pro and maybe the 16e (too early to tell) form stuff that has released. But also this Siri AI, Air Power wireless charging pad, Apple Car project.

The Apple Watch is probably the last hit they had (the M series chips are good but not really new products, but maybe that’s me being overly harsh)

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11 points

maybe that’s me being overly harsh

That’s actually probably fair: the M-chips are impressive, but they’re just an evolution that’s come out of the A-series stuff for their phones.

Which, of course, Apple bought and did not actually create. (I’ll let someone else argue the merits of buy vs do it yourself, especially when you give your aquisition endless R&D funds to make good shit.)

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10 points

I don’t think tech companies got caught with their pants down, they just hit the far end of the S curve regarding growth.

A lot of other “tech” companies in the past saw massive leaps in tech capabilities, then hit a wall once tech got to a certain level. Computing has hit its wall.

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7 points

Well, first they’ll need to dig up and reanimate the corpse of Jobs. It’s amazing to see how they repeat the same failure track when he’s not pushing them to innovate. Even when he was (back) in the top dog seat, they still fell behind the competition and took forever to come up with features that other companies had been doing for years.

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32 points

That’s always been their MO though. Take a recent innovation, and implement it better. That always means it’s later than tech from other places, but they get it “right”. Yes, I know that’s subjective.

In the case of AI, they scrambled to announce the feature with barely any work done on it. Had they kept mum about Apple Intelligence features for a year or so and then revealed, that would be the Apple way.

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It probably doesn’t help that the tech in question, LLMs, are kinda shit, to put it plainly. You make the shiniest, most polished turd and it’s still just a turd. They are interesting and can be neat to play with but, they lack practical applications where cost to run them actually makes sense and benefits humanity. The iPod shuffle was more impactful, when measuring positive impact on people’s lives.

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4 points

Also by all indications the current direction in Machine Learning (stuff like LLM) is a dead end which will never yield a “reasoning artificial intelligence” (even whilst quite a lot of other areas in ML have already reached sufficient capabilities in their domain to actually be useful) so there really isn’t any space to “implement (the main subdomain of ML that has been promoted as) AI better” IMHO.

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2 points

Take a recent innovation, and implement it better.

Ah, the mad rush to be Second Place.

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166 points

The whole industry is a shit show right now with the “AI race”

I don’t want to be a software developer anymore because it’s become a permanent deathmarch toward the next buzzword.

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16 points

Maybe your boss can develop software all by his or her self now lop.

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4 points

Better yet, ask the AI to do it.

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4 points

We just had a town hall with our CEO and they came right out and said we need to simultaneously add AI and not add AI to our products, because customers are both excited and nervous about it. Our competitors are putting “AI” everywhere in their marketing, while we’re just trucking along making a quality product.

Our software works in a very dangerous environment, where mistakes could cost millions in damage and potentially risk human lives. So the end user just sees “AI” as a liability. But the decision makers as to what product to use are removed from conditions on the ground and respond well to marketing BS.

We actually do use AI with some parts of the product (e.g. curve fitting on past data for better predictions), but we need to be very careful about how we advertise that.

It’s dumb. Just pick the product based on what fits your operations best, don’t pick based on buzzwords…

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3 points

Our software works in a very dangerous environment, where mistakes could cost millions in damage and potentially risk human lives.

I mean attorneys don’t seem to have a problem submitting case law that AI hallucinated.

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An AI age in software development will yield massive returns to anybody who makes it to “senior designer-developer” by the end of this decade, IMHO, if only because the totally fucked up unmantainable code bases made by “automated junior developers” will much more quickly reach end of life (the point were it costs more to try and fix/upgrade them than to rewrite them) and need to replaced (and the way to do that is to reverse engineer the Software Requirements from the existing apps an then build from scratch something new that satisfies those requirements, something which LLMs are entirelly unable to do).

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71 points

they should embrace it and be the anti AI tech giant

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28 points

Hell, if they genuinely do that, I might even consider switching sides.

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4 points

There stock would fall. I don’t care but investors would fear Apple is missing out on the future.

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1 point

Unfortunately that’s the truth, but deep down I still hope that maybe some company will be able to focus on sustained, healthy growth instead of infinite profit for shareholders

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47 points

How is this bad news? Dire situation?? They are not where they want to be with this “feature” so they delay it. Sounds like a smart move. Probably second best option to just dropping it

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38 points

Biggest issue is they had a huge marketing campaign based on all these things Apple Intelligence could do, with dates saying when it will come and that you needed to buy the newest iPhone for them to happen. Those dates have come and gone and still no signs of it. If the next iPhone comes out and they still haven’t released it, they risk a huge lawsuit of mis-advertising. It doesn’t matter whether users use the feature or not, it was advertised, and very directly.

Normally, Apple is cautious/careful how they phrase things about their devices so they could back away if something doesn’t go right or doesn’t do what was suggested/implied. But they can’t this time.

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8 points

Everyone who cheer-led the AI garbage trucks moved up in the world. Across the board. All over ther world.

Turns out they were very, very wrong and quite stupid.

Now Apple (and everyone else) has to roll all that back and try to save face.

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8 points

Exactly. I thought the article was going to be about how they’ve been shoe-horning “Apple Intelligence” into recent updates, which everyone turns off immediately. Instead it’s:

The company has officially delayed features first promised last June intended to modernize Siri and give Apple a much-needed boost in the AI race.

HA! First of all the “AI race” is an ass-grabbing competition between insane corporate overlords who can’t wait to burn another hundred billion on something that doesnt’ work.

Secondly, last June was still in the bubble of AI hype when everyone and their dog was forced to comment on it ortherwise the idiot herds would affect stock price.

Thirdly, this isn’t about Apple not getting something to work, this is about Apple understanding what an abysmal shitshow the generative AI functionality is, and trying to land the plane before anything else catches fire.

Ridiculous.

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40 points

I don’t fucking want AI in my phone, so take it out and be done with it.

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4 points

Right? Hink of everything else I can do with that space and computing power. Not to mention the fuckin environmental devastation we’d curb.

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1 point

Siri has run locally since iOS 15

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3 points

You’ve had AI on your phone for ages. All your pictures are “AI” touched. And no you don’t want the raw output cameras in phones are not that good.

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3 points

I was just fine without voice assistants and such. I especially don’t want LLMs being shoved down my throat at every turn.

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