Or, we can hold the fucking media accountable for telling blatant lies about the impacts of tariffs.
Per their own arguments in court, no reasonable person would consider Fox News to be factual.
The OP is battling against what Faux Newz, Dipshit Donnie, and other right-wing propagandist shitrags are telling his employee, all which the employee takes as indesputable truth. If he can override that much brainwashing he can convince anyone of anything.
But the guys in OP, they donât turn on daddy Trump. It canât be that they were lied to, then theyâd have to do something alien to them like introspection. No, it must beâŠan honest mistake? Honestly have no idea how theyâd justify it internally.
Because to these people, being âbadâ isnât something you do, itâs something you are. You may thank certain types of Christianity for this nonsense.
So the thinking goes something like: âIâm a Good Person. And as a Good Person, I only vote for/support Good People, because I am Good. So the people I voted for are Good, because only a Bad Person would vote for Bad People, and Iâm not Bad, Iâm Good. So Trump canât be Bad; he must have just made a mistake.â
This is also why they favor punitive jailing instead of trying to reform criminals; criminals are Bad, and so they will always do Bad Things. Itâs also why they do stuff like try to get rid of abortion. If a woman got pregnant from âsleeping aroundâ then sheâs a Bad Person and deserves to be punished by carrying the child to term.
Well, a lie can be half around the world before the truth even has its boots on.
didnât understand why he was told the other countries pay the tariffs
thatâs easy: you were willing to vote for a guy who lied over 30 thousand times in his first term so he realized youâre a fucking idiot and he could say anything without you thinking even half a second about it.
WHATâS THE POINT OF EXPORTING SHIT YOU IDIOT WHY WOULD A COUNTRY DO IT IF THEY HAD TO PAY FOR IT
The real Russian plot weâve all missed completely has far, far less to do with paying Trump to sell them documents. Thatâs the 2-dimensional public face of a cold-war that never ended and has been devastatingly effective against the USA.
The real Russian attack that we may never fully comprehend is exactly what theyâve done in other countries that theyâve subsequently annexed, which is making the general population stop caring about whatâs true or not. Itâs frighteningly easy to poison the well of public knowledge. You simply pour funding into efforts to boost BOTH SIDES of every social issue. When social debates and your nationâs interests are ramped up and the rhetoric gets more and more extreme on both sides of an issue, when every story on both sides becomes suspect, people simply tune out or stop caring about whatâs true or not, and this is exactly where we are. Most people are more willing to just throw their arms up and go find a distraction than try to sift through whatâs real or not.
It was even easier to pull off in the USA than anywhere else because we have a built-in policy of fierce independence and individuality. We donât have communities around us, we donât have social circles that will make us want to step up our game, we donât have groups of people we care about telling us weâre wrong, we donât have help from anywhere but inside our own heads. And if youâve never been taught how your own thoughts can be wrong, if youâve been fed the âspecial birthday boyâ narrative for so long that you think highly of yourself, truth will seem toxic and poison because it will tell you things about yourself that will hurt. We donât seek out pain as a species, we use pain a signal to avoid a thing.
You can google âKGB tactics for destabilizing nationsâ and spend weeks reading about whatâs being done to us right now. But most people who read my message here will immediately feel that sneaking doubt or words of caution because âhow do we even know whatâs real anymore.â
WHATâS THE POINT OF EXPORTING SHIT YOU IDIOT WHY WOULD A COUNTRY DO IT IF THEY HAD TO PAY FOR IT
Yeah this is grade school level reasoning telling you that it obviously doesnât work that way.
A countryâs aluminum exports for example arenât extra aluminum they want to get rid of because itâs junking up their basements and America is 1800-got-junk taking it off their hands at cost. Itâs a fucking series of material production companies in a different country. They too are based on capitalism and they too require profits in order to function.
and every one of the millions who wereare just as dumb, will forget the lessons learned well before the next election and vote for it all over again.
Delete Elon and Trump from existence and nothing will get better.
Why?
Because Americans are dumb as fuck and theyâll still be dumb as fuck when and if those two are gone.
Iâm old enough to have seen the same pattern multiple times. Republican leadership fails spectacularly, even pissing off many conservatives in the process. But as soon as the next cycle begins, those conservatives are back onboard voting for the absolute shittiest candidates.
Because to them an actual, literal dictator is better than a Democrat as president.
Our society is circling the toilet and it almost certainly wonât get better within our lifetimes. Prepare yourselves for that.
I actually donât consider this an issue of being dumb. It IS an issue with being under-educated (often deliberately in R states) and fed a ton of propaganda
Thereâs ignorance and thereâs stupidity. Stupidity will stubbornly resist any attempt to correct its ignorance.
Stupidity is a more dangerous enemy of the good than malice. One may protest against evil; it can be exposed and, if need be, prevented by use of force. Evil always carries within itself the germ of its own subversion in that it leaves behind in human beings at least a sense of unease.
Against stupidity we are defenseless.
Neither protests nor the use of force accomplish anything here; reasons fall on deaf ears; facts that contradict oneâs prejudgment simply need not be believed â in such moments the stupid person even becomes critical â and when facts are irrefutable, they are just pushed aside as inconsequential, as incidental. In all this the stupid person, in contrast to the malicious one, is utterly self-satisfied and, being easily irritated, becomes dangerous by going on the attack.
For that reason, greater caution is called for than with a malicious one. Never again will we try to persuade the stupid person with reasons, for it is senseless and dangerous.
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If we want to know how to get the better of stupidity, we must seek to understand its nature. This much is certain, that it is in essence not an intellectual defect but a human one. There are human beings who are of remarkably agile intellect yet stupid, and others who are intellectually quite dull yet anything but stupid.
It took Rome 1000 years to collapse. I expect instability in the us for the rest of my lifetime. Iâm struggling to balance that reality and also living my life.
Also- I think COVID is to blame too. More people started living from the survival mindset and actually getting sick impacted their brain. Dictatorships help people feel safe.
It took Rome 1000 years to collapse.
I mean, if you want to get extra snarky, Romeâs still there. Still one of the wealthiest cities on earth, to this day. The infrastructure is what makes the city and that can be repaired or rebuilt, improved even, as generations come to their senses.
More people started living from the survival mindset and actually getting sick impacted their brain. Dictatorships help people feel safe.
I pin this far more on the toxic media atmosphere than COVID, although the pandemic definitely took its toll. That said, the current hysteria around migrants and Woke feels a lot more like the post-9/11 moment than COVID. Democrats rolling over sheepishly while a Republican wields unitary executive power to disappear dissidents and intimidate
What folks on here donât want to accept is that this isnât the first time weâve had a President behave like this. Its not even the first time in our lifetimes (for the most part - sorry teenagers). This is more normal than not, in fact. Reaganâs War on Drugs, Nixonâs War on Crime, Eisenhowerâs Red Scare, and FDR/Trumanâs Japanese Internment echoed all the same fascist tendencies.
Whatâs really changed in 2025 is the abysmal long term economic outlook. Liberals in 1984 could duck their heads and glare at the rampant poverty around them and mutter âIf those hippie slackers had earned an education rather than smoking dope and fucking around, they wouldnât get picked on by the policeâ. But now⊠fucking kids at Columbia University are being targeted. Surgeons are getting targeted. Judges are getting targeted.
Literally the only thing you can do to avoid these purges is Be MAGA. And âJust be MAGA, you wonât get hurtâ isnât something liberals can quite bring themselves to do yet (although keep an eye on Gavin Newsom and Richie Torries and Andrew Cuomo, because its coming).
Dictatorship isnât making people feel safe. Itâs making them feel terrified and helpless.
The city of Rome still exists but the Roman Empire does not. That is the long term future of the us.
The brain drain is necessary for the dictatorship to fully take over. Just like in Russia, I also expect people to eventually have to play along - or lose their job, house etc.
Dictatorship only scares the non maga. Maga feels safer with it.
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