In posts on X following the incident, Tesla CEO Elon Musk called the incidents “terrorism” and said the company “just makes electric cars and has done nothing to deserve these evil attacks.”
OK buddy.
The cars suck, but he’s right that the company hasn’t done anything to deserve this. He’s the one who chose to make himself the face of Tesla, though, so however people feel about him, they’ll feel about any business he owns.
Terrorism, though? Hardly. It’s protest. He’s the one doing terrorism by dismantling the government.
Terrorism, though? Hardly.
Pretty much the definition of terrorism. Doesn’t necessarily make it wrong.
That’s what was so terrifying about the Patriot Act for so long.
Violent, criminal acts
Property damage is not violence and nonviolent protests are not terrorism. They will claim it is. They are lying.
Yes, but that definition also defines… basically all the most heinous things that Trump and those around him have done in the last… 5 years, lets say? … as terrorism.
Remember CPAC, 2022?
… kinda speaks for itself.
Rather it is vandalism, because Terrorism, its acts cause terror in the population.
Spraypaint a traffic camera, violence.
So what I’m hearing is, if you burn Tesla because their CEO is a scum-sucking useless billionaire who is dismantling the social services that you and your family rely on (and paid for!), in order to cut taxes for the 1%, you’re a terrorist.
If you set shit on fire because you like to watch stuff burn, you’re just a plain ol’ arsonist.
Not sure why some people are disagreeing - it for sure fits the definition. I’m not exactly sad about it - Musk is helping to rip apart the country and I have a hard time blaming people who feel that helping to rip apart one of his companies is about all they can do - but committing arson to further an ideology is terrorism.
It’s property damage that was done specifically to avoid hurting people. By that interpretation, Banksy could also be classified as a terrorist.
This is resisting, not furthering, ideological goals.
Could you state the ideological goal of these attacks?
They just paid fucking 60 billion dollars to him to keep him from quitting. Maybe a smidge of sunk cost fallacy.
You can remove him from the board but he’ll still have all of his shares. And I’d bet he’s not really doing much as Tesla these days anyway.
“Evil attacks”, like we’re killing puppies, or something.
It’s vandalism against machines, and the only victim here is the insurance companies.
Also some people who bought teslas before all this happened having their rates go up. And the people who had their Tesla vandalized or totaled who didn’t get a good enough payout from insurance to replace it (if you’ve ever dealt with insurance you know you’re not getting the actual value back). I’m not saying I’m losing sleep over it, but still.
I had a friend buy a Tesla after Elon was talking about buying twitter but before one could objectively say he went full fash, and I told him he’d be embarrassed about it eventually. He went through with it because it had X features or whatnot. Do I feel bad for him? A little, but it’s not like the writing wasn’t on the wall. Obviously once Elon was with Trump 24/7 he said he regretted it, but it’s a bit late for that.
There’s no ethical consumption under capitalism, so it sucks to see consumers be targeted, but I understand. I have a phone and I’m sure somewhere child slavery was involved. Does that make me a bad person? Yes, the answer is objectively yes. We’re all making shitty choices every day and if one day someone decides to draw the line and I’m on the wrong side of it, I guess I’ll just have to cope. That’s kinda how I feel about it. So Tesla owners are being harmed too, but I don’t know that I’d call them victims of anything except their own decisions. I’m not sure they deserve it all equally, but we all kinda suck so whatever.
Problem with setting Teslas on fire is we can’t know if it’s an act of protest or if they just did that on their own.
The incident in Kansas City genuinely does sound like one just caught itself on fire.
In Kansas City, Police Captain Jacob Becchina said in a statement that an officer first observed smoke coming from a Cybertruck parked in a Tesla parking lot. “The officer used his fire extinguisher, however, KCFD was still needed as he could not put the fire out,” Becchina said. “The fire spread to a second Cybertruck parked next to the original burning one. The circumstances are under investigation, but preliminarily, the fire is being investigated for the potential of being an Arson.”
Probably a lot of the time it is. Nows a great time to do it if you’re gonna.
Saw a post earlier where a guy was 42,000$ underwater on his and wanted to offload it at that big of a loss before his insurance dropped it entirely.
*$42,000. You saved no time in typing it wrong and look stupid. Congratulations.
We know that Teslas sometimes just catch fire on their own.
We also know that sometimes Tesla drivers will set their cars on fire themselves on purpose. Because of that…
We also know that Elon has a backdoor into all Teslas.
Now ask yourself which is more likely, the woke liberal crybabies actually causing violence or a drug addled and politically embattled CEO of a company that lost 50% of its value in the past 3 months creating a false flag to villainize the left and get insurance to cover damage to the vehicles he can’t sell?
/s (kind of)
Didnt the Nazi party burn down the Reichstag and blame it on the other party?
They blamed it on the communist party, yes. There were 8 parties represented in the Reichstag at the time though.
If unsold teslas catch fire, i’m convinced it’s some insurance scam. A car sold and a car gone that they can’t fix anyway
Wdym by “backdoor into all Teslas”
- This could mean “taking an industry standard sorfware update feature and making it abusively aggressive to or push malware to end users”
- it could mean “grants tesla 25-75% of the car’s controls from the internet”
- it could mean the former AND “grants access to diagnostics, settings and controls the consumer cannot access themselves”
- it could also mean “can run arbitrary code on your tesla at any time with little or no notice”
What I know from publicly-confirmed information: Tesla (hence Musk) have access to the camera feeds, GPS location, remote unlock, remote control of the driving at least sufficient to back the car out of a parking stall to facilitate repossession, and, of course, remote software update. The latter could provide full remote access to everything through new software.
if you know anything about who did it no you don’t
Maybe, maybe this is actually stochastic terrorism being carried out by MAGA themselves.
Think about it, their plan is to declare martial law - right? Conservatives already hate EVs, they think that Trump is a ‘good’ billionaire while billionaires like Gates are ‘bad’ billionaires - I don’t think it would take much to make Musk out to be a ‘bad’ billionaire.
Idk if this is as clear as ‘good guys vs bad guys’ - these are freedom fighters, but it’s never been clearer that a lot of people are divided on what ‘free’ actually means. You shouldn’t assume that the people doing this are actually on your side.
Insurance fraud due to slow sales
