132 points

3rd party ads lead to the roulette wheel of malware injection. M$ can’t even keep the malware links off of their garbage MSN homepage on Edge. This would be an extremely dumb move, and they will do it anyway because it trades off security for money.

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To the surprise of absolutely nobody. There’s no way it was going to be free and have no ads.

Edit: By the way, I don’t see many people talking about it but DALL-E 3 was stealthily launched in the new Bing chat update and it’s incredibly impressive. By far the best image generation AI in the market right now, and it probably won’t be free for long.

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55 points

Do you think that the next step is product placement?

“Draw a rabbit wearing a top hat.”

Produces picture of rabbit, wearing a top hat, sipping a coke.

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34 points

That would be hilariously evil, but I doubt they’d go that far. They’ll likely just put an ad in-between every prompt if they decide to go full greed.

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9 points

Why not both? Why would their greed have a limit like that?

I could see this being a very interesting watermark - the free demo is sponsored by Coke, and all images will prominently feature the product. Upgrade to a paid/business/Enterprise account to get images without the product.

Given how many God-awful advertising patents have already been filed, I really can’t see anyone turning down this opportunity. The only reason against it would be a technological limitation- making sure the product isn’t featured alongside negative/toxic content. For instance, Hitler yelling at a bunch of homeless orphans (while holding a Coke)

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7 points

It won’t be free for long. MS already announced that it will be moving to a paid service shortly.

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4 points

Wonder if they’ll use the Hulu model of “pay us money and still see ads”…

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1 point

Hard to say. IIRC DALL-E will be moving to paid when “Designer” comes out of Beta.

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1 point

I jave had mixed results. I asked it to generate a user interface and it was absolute gibberish.

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1 point

The best, but still pretty bad at understanding some very basic ideas.

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74 points

Geez, ads baked into an OS. What a time to be alive.

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35 points

The ads have been baked in for a while. Every time I turn on my PC, the first thing I see is it trying to get me to buy Game Pass, and when Starfield came out, it was putting pictures from the game on that startup screen. Even after I tried to turn that off, it still showed them.

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21 points

Yeah windows has been an ad delivery platform since windows 11 came out. It’s why it was a “free” upgrade for so many people

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Did you mean to say Windows 10?

Ads have been served in Home edition since 10 was dropped with 1507. And they strip group policy from it to make it harder to change that. Windows Vista to Windows 8.1 were offered free upgrades to Windows 10, based on the version those keys belonged to.

I’m right now testing Windows 11 deployment for work and I hate it. I’ll move to Linux before I move to Windows 11 on my personal devices.

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3 points

In windows 11 or 10?

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1 point

Windows 11.

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18 points

Right? You bought the OS but you still get ads. Even worse, it sends your data to MS servers

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52 points

Use Linux.

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50 points

Microsoft has outright lost the plot with Windows. Spyware Operating System.

Linux has come a long way people, far more than you might realise and very suitable for the enterprise. Do yourself a favour, find a distribution that appeals to you and try it out.

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I’m tech-comfortable but can’t see myself using Linux (on my PC) until it is near-seamless. Windows is a pain in the ass in so many ways but when I want to play a game or install a program I can. I can disable all of the annoying/invasive features one time and never have to deal with them again.

I’m definitely rooting for Linux though and appreciate the users supporting the ecosystem.

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20 points

near-seamless

As near-seamless as Windows? I’d argue it’s already there!

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Yeah no, I made my home teather/Plex server computer use Linux and I’m constantly having issues with it. Getting the 5.1 audio to work properly through HDMI was impossible and everytime I try to use it I have to un plug and re plug the HDMI cable or it won’t recognize the tv.

Not to mention the 6 different Nvidia driver versions I had to go trough before it would actually output image after not being recognized. With most of them I had to reboot the machine

And I also use Ubuntu on my work laptop and I’m constantly fighting it whenever I dare use my Bluetooth headphones (Why does the entire system hang when the audio drivers hang???) and having no middle ground for windows stealing focus is annoying as fuck.

Don’t get me wrong I’d like to take Ubuntu over windows any day of the week but don’t tell me it’s seamless because it isn’t. It has a lot of unresolved issues and requires a shit ton of tinkering to do things that are done with a couple of clicks on windows

Plus good luck having legacy support for ancient financial software using wine

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6 points

Other than VR sadly, but it’s really damn good for everything else I do. If only I didn’t have an Nvidia card though it’s given me so many headaches. >:(

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6 points

I’d agree now. I’ve been 100% Linux since February and I love it. I’ve tried for 20 years to go to Linux and there was always something that made me go back to Windows. Now, no problems at all.

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I looked at my Windows install one day and realized over half the programs I use are open source anyway. With Proton taking care of the few games I actually give a shit about, I don’t miss Windows at all in the last four years.

I actually got into Linux like 23 years ago but never fully made the jump myself and delete my Windows partition until 2019. Always dual-booted until then.

I personally think KDE is the best Windows-lookalike desktop environment on Linux if you want something that looks familiar.

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I’m not trying to twist your arm or change your mind, and certainly not trying to convince you to go install linux right now, Just giving you some first hand experience in response to your statements.

But honestly, it is near seamless as is. Especially if you mostly play steam games. The only games that don’t work are ones that use grossly invasive anticheats, like Asian MMOs.

Check out protondb.com if you havent yet and look up the type of games you generally play.

and if you play games from other sources, theres usually a lutris script to install it with 1 click.

Just to give a recent example, I was playing Starfield the second it unlocked via proton with zero technical issues.

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Honestly you will have far less issues on Linux in general. It is easier to install, won’t nag you for rent, it won’t change you default preferences or force apps as system and most of all won’t data mine your data and spy on you under the guise of telemetry. In saying that, it is with the possible exception of some games take a little bit to get up and running but most on steam are very easy and you will be quite surprised at how many run on Linux.

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I use VR a lot and play a couple of games that use that dumbass anticheat thing so it’s really not an option for me right now. I’ve been toying with the idea of slapping it on my old laptop that’s basically a streaming machine at this point, but I’m tired and old lol

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4 points

If you have an old computer you don’t use much, you should consider giving linux a try. My Windows 10 installation on my desktop is far less stable than the arch instance on my laptop, and I am very much in the “still learning” phase of using it.

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3 points

Definitely still learning, a seasoned Arch user starts and/or ends every comment with “btw I use Arch”

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2 points

I use windows mostly for gaming now. If I’m doing anything else, I swap to my Linux disk. I don’t use Arch, by the way, I use Fedora.

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I was doing something similar for a while, but I found I struggled with inertia enough that I kept doing non-gaming stuff on Windows. I switched to using Fedora as my main operating system, getting rid of Windows entirely, and I’ve been pleasantly surprised by how straightforward gaming has been. (Though as I understand it, it’s trickier for people with Nvidia GPUs)

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