Now this is nice. Hopefully 3rd party manufacturers can also provide a longer life span for the device.
I’ll believe this in 7 years.
Tbh, it’s Google. I can actually believe that they stick to their promises.
Ahem https://killedbygoogle.com/
Edit: my tone was tongue in cheek, I hope Google will keep its promise, but you know, they did us a Stadia after all.
The person you replied to is being downvoted, and yes, expecting support from Google is a meme, and Google deserves 100% of the negativity they’re receiving in this regard.
But, in their defense, they have always kept their word on keeping Pixels updated, and in some cases, have added on an additional year of support when not originally planned, including an extra full Android update for older devices.
So while they eventually kill every new software product they make, they’ve always kept their word on Pixel updates. I think the Pixel team has a lot more resources than the rest of Google, so I’m inclined to believe them for now, but I’ll be one of the first people grabbing a pitchfork if they don’t keep their word.
I’m guessing here, but are any of those products on that website both purchasable AND given a guaranteed product support time? Or to make it more specific, has Google ever killed off a phone (Nexus and Pixel years, so 15 years total) prior to its end of support date?
I don’t believe they have. Stadia, a non-phone product, is the closest thing. Of course it’s not a phone and Google also didn’t give a eol date before its release. When it was killed they refunded any purchased games. So I guess the better question is would you be fine with getting a refund in the amount of your purchase of a Pixel 8/Pro if they didn’t hold up their end of the bargain?
I know some of the comments in the community are tongue-in-cheek, but if Google were to keep the prior support date or do what they did today by increasing them, folks still wouldn’t be happy.
You literally still have unlimited Google photos on a Pixel 1. They keep their promises for sure
Every Pixel so far has been supported for as long or longer than it’s official support window. This isn’t a free chat app. It costs a lot and it comes with warranties and expectations for true spec sheets.
Speak for yourself, that’s 7 years of GrapheneOS support! What phone do you use which you think is squeaky clean?
Also consider that the cost to do the maintenance updates has decreased due to extensive code refactoring and projects like Treble, Mainline, and the Generic Kernel Image. Major work in the platform has been focused on cutting these costs.
7 years honestly seems excessive but this is a good trend I suppose
Hopefully Google doesn’t end up cancelling Pixels before the seven are up!
How does it differ from buying a laptop at this point? The price is the same, the capabilities are similar, the form factor can be the same (Fold or tablets in general).
As long as the hardware can keep up with the software, and the manufacturer keeps building products, why should they ever end support? (a la Windows)
Laptop manufacturers do end support. The OS manufacturer isn’t the one who typically controls what hardware vendors will support. In this case Google is both so people tend to conflate the two, but there are plenty of laptops that are no longer supported by the manufacturer.
Computers tend to have user serviceable parts and to be much more tinker able, so it easier to not notice that dell isn’t supporting your laptop, you’re doing it yourself.
Lenovo didn’t update your laptop from windows 8 to Windows 11, you did. If the drivers went funky, you figured out how to fix them.
You can likewise side load your own OS onto the phone long after manufacturer support has ended.
I don’t really know all the differences but phone OS upgrades need firmware updates as well, which will delay a lot of OS releases and cause old hardware to no longer have security support. I don’t think the OS layer is completely separate like it is with desktop computers.
Are they going to bundle chrome as a system update like apple bundles safari, just so they can say they have longer update cycle?
I’m not sure what you mean by that. Chrome is already a system app on most android devices. Be it pixel, Samsung, oneplus, etc.
System apps can be updated through Google Play (or any other channel) just fine. The version bundled with the system is just the baseline you can always revert to.
During a system update, the system apps only get updated if you don’t already have a newer or same version installed (no automatic downgrades).
I already know what a system app is and how updates work for them. I was questioning what he meant by having Chrome as a system app and claiming years of OS updates. His comment did not make any sense.
Lol, I don’t believe Google for a second on this kind of shit
Meanwhile every other phone is on some old version of Android. The fuck is going on where every single Android phone can’t just upgrade to the latest? Why does the phone maker have to be the one to support the OS? It’s like relying on fucking Dell to update Windows on a Dell desktop, for example. Makes no goddamn sense. I should be able to download any new version of Android for my devices and install them.
The only alternative is fucking crApple, and I won’t go there. Fuck that pile of trash that you have to beg crApple to do any simple thing or have any simple customization. They control all their own phones and upgrade them, which solves that problem, but I want phones and tablets to work like a real computer. Is that so goddamn hard?
I think what’s happened is that unlike windows each manufacturer is given the source code to make their own unique version of Android that’s incompatible with anything else typically. So once the lifetime of the product has expired as intended that development ceases.
Google has tried to resolve this problem with their android security updates. But this isn’t a perfect solution either.
The manufacturer argues that it’s not profitable to maintain legacy devices as you’re incentivizing the customer to not buy the next model. So as consumers we are asking manufacturers to impact their own profits and capitalistic goals. This is unfortunately hopeless without a regulatory power to force that consumer interest.
The Android eco system is right fucking mess.
Every manufacturer seems to have a unique settings screen that doesn’t match anything else, so you search for how to do something on Android, and none of the settings you find exist on your phone.
And don’t even get me started on Android development…
Corporatism my friend.
The issue is Qualcomm who makes the majority of SoCs for phones. Qualcomm, if I am not mistaken controls the support of the phone because the phone uses their chip.
Google is now pulling an Apple move and using their own Silicon (Samsung’s Silicone) to bypass using Qualcomm.
