This is what they want for me, you, and our children and wouldn’t hesitate a second to do it again provided the line goes up

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Most of human history was like this. The 50 year period after WWII is the aberration. If we don’t fight the oligarchs this is what they will reduce us to.

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Most of human history…hmm checks notes… since the invention of capitalism about 400 years ago, yes.

Even serfs under feudal lords had significantly more free time and while basic child labor was common, it was mostly in family run farms.

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Instructions unclear, reverted to feudalism, defended literal, inherited pile of manure with violence

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Pre-industrial societies still expected children to work from young ages. And they would often switch to adult labour in their early teens.

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Ya preindustrial society was all kinds of fucked up. That comment was unhinged.

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Right, but the industrial revolution wasn’t the mark of the start of this. The end of Feudalism is what they’re pointing towards. And they’re not arguing for Feudalism either, but rather that we should do neither capitalism nor Feudalism

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This is why I get so fucking mad at the tradwife Tiktok people, who go “Oh feminists are forcing you to go to work, I miss the good old days!”

Like no you fucking don’t, in the “good old days” since the industrial revolution anyone who wasn’t rich had to work their ass off in shit conditions, including women and children. These people never read The Jungle (that shit was horrifying in middle school, and I only read an excerpt), or saw the pictures of coal kids, or the Triangle Shirtwaist factory fire back in 1911 that killed 100+ women and girls.

You get to pose for the camera with a full face of makeup and hold your soccer team of kids because your husband is rich and thinks you’re hot. Full stop.

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I’m right there with you. Women have always worked and the 50’s housewife in the US is a historical blip that women fought to escape.

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I mean that’s just not true. I thought everyone learned about how WWII offered women the opportunity to join the workforce in mass numbers for the first time because of the crucial roles that were left open by the men who were off to fight. That’s what sparked the transition toward women’s right to work at all. Before that, there was no such right. Unless you are counting cooking and cleaning at home, or tending the family farm, as “work”, but I don’t believe that’s what people mean when we are referring to “a woman’s right to work”.

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That’s the narrative, but it’s centered around middle class white women.

Source

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This is fairly inaccurate, as well. Paid work was certainly lower, but prior to the Industrial Revolution merely putting clothes on your back was a fairly labor-intensive task. One estimate puts it at 10 spinners to supply one person on a loom, and this work was often done by women at home, and was generally paid work in the Middle Ages. A British census in the mid 1800s, which over-represents unpaid work in domestic services as laborers (I’ll let you decide if that counts as women being part of the economy or not), still had about 50% of women in the census as employed.

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Cooking, cleaning and tending the family farm are all examples of work. As are making, washing and mending clothes. Teaching, nursing, bookkeeping, sex work and running a large household (or working in one) are also jobs. Helping to run the family business, whether a farm, a bakery, a church or a blacksmith, is working. Women did not just sit around embroidering things, and those who did sold their embroidery for money. You should also realise that all the men going to the office/factory every day is a recent development. My grandmothers both held gainful employment before world war 2.

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No, you are wrong and need to understand why.

The ability to have that 50’s housewife was due to a single earner economy. You could be a bagboy at a supermarket and support a family of three … possibly even own your own home.

This was taken away. Perspective

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You’re not responding to my comment, just throwing in your extremely simplistic agenda. Your suburban american 50’s dream was a blip in time and space that is meaningless to most people.

Edited to add: The labor force participation rate for women in the US in 1955 was 34.5%. Women even worked in the 50’s. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS11300002

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don’t use tiktok

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I never did and I hate the app, this is just the shit I see from Youtubers who cover awful/interesting trends on Tiktok.

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Too many people don’t understand that politics decides whether or not they’d be a bonafide slave.

Without laws in place there would be slaveowners today. Jeff Bezos? Elon Musk? They’d own slaves if they could.

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Musk and his family owned slaves in South Africa before the apartheid government was overthrown. They fled to Canada.

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Worst part about the Triangle Waistshirt factory fire is that the owners actually chained the exits and many of the fire exits were so poorly maintained that when the workers tried to escape using them, they collapsed and many fell to their deaths… and when a lawsuit was filed, somehow the judge believed that the whole thing was a whiny conspiracy and they ruled in favor of the owners.

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I’d rather burn every city to the fucking ground than rob any of our children of their childhood. Catch my kids standing outside with the molotovs.

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This but also stop them from robbing our adulthoods

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Catch my kids standing outside with the molotovs.

I can assure you they were doing no such thing. They were dogsitting for me. And reading white-Jesus books.

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If the parents are made poor enough, this will come back. Just in case you don’t know why they kill social security.

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When I was a kid, my parents would wax poetically about their summers spent picking strawberries and green beans earning 25 cents a day in California Central Valley. They loved it, apparently.

Good, honest work they told me. Then as I got older they demanded I attend college and get a white collar career established, lol.

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Let me wax in: I picked cherries as a kid. Not for poetry, though, but to make some money for myself.

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And this photo shows a group of child laborers going in for a 12-hour night shift at a meat packing plant in Kansas, 2025. Just kidding, they will not make the mistake of allowing photography this time around.

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