$25 to rent the movie, one watch within max 24 hours after you start watching it… Or $5 more to own it. Scammers.

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No you are mistaken with “Or $5 mire to own it”. You own a license to watch for the amount of time the platforms decides to keep it up.

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Then, when they remove it, they offer you a measly $5 gift card only redeemable on their platform.

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On that last post where someone got a refund they gave a full refund as a gift card and an additional 5 euro gift card.

(Not saying it’s an okay think to do, just in case you’re referencing it.)

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22 points

A gift card isn’t a refund

It also doesn’t change the false implication they would “own” the digital copy

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5 points

Who does that??

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And people will go ‘you didn’t buy it!’ like it doesn’t say “Buy” right fuckin’ there.

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True, but it just says “buy 4k” which for all we know could mean “buy a temporary license to watch the 4k movie”.

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4 points

AAAAAUUUGHHHHH!!!

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3 points

“Own” it.

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144 points

Spending $30 to own a brand new movie that just came out is not something I have a problem with.

However, not being able to download a copy of the movie you purchased is where I take issue.

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72 points

$30 to own the movie is valid, but for $5 less, you’re only allowed 1 watch within 24 hours of starting. Something like that shouldn’t be basically the same price as the movie. With pricing like this, they basically force you to spend the extra $5. There isn’t even a point to rent the movie and they know that.

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Hmmm… The region-free blu-ray is cheaper than this. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Barbie-Blu-ray-Region-Margot-Robbie/dp/B0BGY6PRK5

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24 points

When you said “cheaper” I was not expecting like NEARLY HALF THE PRICE

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I absolutely agree! Renting a movie should cost nowhere near as much as purchasing the movie.

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If you don’t get a physical piece of media that can be viewed offline indefinitely, you don’t own anything, you’re just renting. Services revoking even bought and paid for content is not unheard of, digital purchasing gives every streaming company the ability to do that.

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If you don’t get a physical piece of media

It doesn’t have to be physical

/pendantic

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Would be rad if a service actually let you download a movie you purchased as an mkv file or something. Can’t see it happening though

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They are legally entitled to do so, sure.

Doesn’t make up for the false implication that you are “purchasing” the movie in any commonly understood meaning of the word. And if there was any alternative where you own a full res digital format, maybe the outrage could be said to be misplaced, but there isnt, and it’s not.

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After the first few times I had apple remove a book from my library, and the only explanation they ever gave me was “sometimes books change, and when books change they are a new book,” I just went back to DRM free. If I have to jump through hoops, and still can’t keep the content I legally purchased, why would I legally purchase the content?

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When Amazon removed 1984 from Kindle, I thought that’s it I’m done. That is too ironic, DRM free for me. Nobody’s going to remove my books

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106989048

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I believe it was Sea of Sorrows for me. The first time I contacted them asking what was up, since I wanted to read the book I had purchased earlier that year. They “gave” it to me as a “one time exception.”

I never purchased a digital book again. Though I did still contact them again later that year, asking why it was gone yet again.

They tried to give me a “this may be an updated version” and I was like “no, this is a fucking novel based on a video game, they aren’t releasing new versions every few months like textbooks.”

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Ironic but “Fahrenheit 451” being destroyed from Kindle would have been even more perfectly on the nose.

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True. But 1984 is still pretty strong, memory holes, double think, denying reality. Fascist organizations dictating what people can know, say, think, remember.

That’s very much on the nose. But regardless, huge massive red flag, you don’t own something that you have in your library unless it’s physical and can’t be removed at a whim.

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Wow I have this book on kindle …I’ll check if its still there

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wait till yall hear about how college text books work now

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2 points

Oh, dude. I never even bought mine. None of my professors even used the ones the schools said we needed.

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1 point

Do you have a good place to buy DRM free books?

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11 points

I can’t recommend myanonamouse because although Dorm-free books are available, they are not for sale.

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Honestly, I havent bought a digital book since. You can read between the lines there.

I don’t actually believe there will be a place to purchase DRM free books. Most of the ones I am seeing from a cursory search are for copyright free books.

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6 points

You can buy DRM free books @ your local book store.

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3 points

kobo.com sells books without DRM (under eBook details they tell you the exact format). For example, the murderbot chronicles are sold without. Sadly they don’t have everything like amazon does, especially for niche authors that only publish digitally.

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Man, I spent 15 bucks to watch it at the movie theatre. Why is the rent option more expensive than that? Even with the popcorn and drink I stayed below that.

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My only argument I can come up with is that other people have friends, so $25 will be less than going to the cinema because they don’t have to pay that price for each person watching. It’s still ridiculously expensive though.

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14 points

This is the logic publishers apply to libraries when they charge them more for books than general retail price.

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2 points

They do ? I assumed they get better deals as they buy shit in bulk.

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1 point

Don’t most friend groups pay for their own ticket?

Who out there paying for a ticket for all their friends? And are they really friends at that point?

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3 points

Family sounds more likely in this case. Two adults and three kids could be like 50 euros for tickets unless the kids are small enough to sit in your lap.

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0 points

I’m trying to imagine a Barbie watch party and I’m having trouble.

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12 points

It’s less than 2 movie tickets and people usually don’t go to the theater alone.

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8 points

Oh God just wait until they realize they can use cameras/IP geodata from your phone to determine how many people are in your house while you stream something so they start charging per person.

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Wouldn’t work because if you live in an apartment, then your neighbors are going to skew the numbers. There’s no way for them to know if the guy who lives on the floor above you is in your apartment or theirs.

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You are exactly right. This whole thread is full of people complaining about the price, but it’s perfectly justifiable for this one reason. If you have a significant other then it’s actually cheaper to rent than it is to go to the theater. And big screen TVs are commonplace, so the experience is about the same (arguably better since you can pause if you have to go pee, can rewind if you missed something, can be as obnoxious as you want, don’t have to commute there, and don’t have to deal with sticky floors and overpriced popcorn).

I’m not saying the price is reasonable (it’s too high in my opinion) but people need to stop pretending like it makes no sense from a business perspective. It’s a no-brainer to the average non-pirating consumer: they are getting something better, for cheaper.

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I love all the good and the bad of the movie theater experience, except the price. But having a young child now, it’s just not worth going most of the time. I am still an avid film viewer so it’s nice that I have an option to rent at home with only a slight delay behind the theatrical run. If I’m feeling really patient, I can usually wait a little longer and stream it for free. I recently did that with the TMNT movie.

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66 points

“Owned” till we remove it from your library

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15 points

You’ll own nothing, and you’ll be happy

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9 points

“owned” til someone upstream squeezes us harder / we do stupid shit that loses us customers and we go out of business

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