8 points

Bruh just use smb

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Love how this meme once again shows a Linux terminal command (that only works on specific distros) instead of what most users would want (which would work on almost any user-friendly distro), the button in the File Manager to add the network share to your left sidebar.

Somehow people still believe CLI commands are superior, meanwhile people who just want to get Linux-unrelated shit done (that isn’t IT-related either) don’t understand what exactly happens here and won’t be able to permanently add the share to their file browser this way. Y’know, the way most people would use it in their daily workflow.

Where Apple fails in proper software integration, Linux fails in feature communication. Instead of properly integrating features (Apple) or providing/focusing on doing things intuitively and accessibly (Linux), both want the user to start thinking their way. And I fucking hate it, it prevents Linux from becoming more popular.

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Somehow people still believe CLI commands are superior

Something that only a pure enduser would say.

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How is sshfs source target distro-specific? That would work anywhere. What would confuse the user is GUI, because we have about 5 major DEs and 10 major file managers that usually don’t even work with sshfs without extra plugins.

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We also have ~5 major package managers (which all work differently) with usually 20 different package names depending on the repo, and you chose to ignore that part.

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I ignore that part because it doesn’t pose a problem for the user. If you’re on a distro X, you know what command to type to install a package using its package manager. For the same reason, OP didn’t care to explain how to power on your computer. Or do you expect a meme to be a comprehensive guide on how to install sshfs on all major distros? Really? Maybe the real problem is that some people don’t understand what a meme is.

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My biggest problem with Linux is that there are 8 ways to solve any problem. Some of these are distro specific, and all of them are THE definitive way to do it depending on who you ask. This comes up for me most when I want to make a change to something or do it again on a new machine.

For adding another network drive, for example I think oh it’s called samba right and open the terminal and type in samba help. The response is: command not found do you want to install “samba-dc”? Okay so not samba. Oh that’s right I edited a file. Now was it smb.conf? No wait maybe it was fstab.

It is getting easier as I get more familiar, but I have to wrap my head around every new thing that I want to do. It’s no wonder people don’t have the patience.

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That’s what you get for dabbling with computers. Of course there’s many ways to do one thing. There’s many ways to do one thing with Lego, for fucks sake. Do you really expect computers to be simpler?

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I know this is just an example, but it is kind of funny.

User somehow sets up SMB shares on their network. Then is confused by the client?

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But that’s what I mean, right? I found a guide on how to edit a config file, then after I’ve forgotten how it went, I try to run the client that does exactly the thing I want. I don’t have it installed, so I must not need to, but good luck finding the original guide. Idk, I just spend so much time feeling confused trying to get my dumb little project homeserver to do what I want.

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Well, GUIs are even more distro-specific, so it’s either generalisability or user-friendliness. It doesn’t mean that guis don’t have the option.

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You can click your way to the same feature in Nautilus. No need to even see a terminal.

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Yeah. You also can edit mounts via GUI tools instead of manipulating fstab. You can configure shares without opening smb.conf. You can do all these things, now if we would just communicate how user-friendly a Linux distro can be that would be nice. Right now it’s still a wild goose chase to find instructions how to do things graphically and therefore accessibly and more safely, as every search first and foremost results in tons of (often time different) CLI commands. And there are too many in the community who counter with disabling or elitist bullshit, as if someone who isn’t into RTFM for every click somehow can’t be allowed to flip a switch. It’s exhausting to fight against these sentiments, especially now where apparently a lot of people suddenly realize that Microsoft and Apple might not be the best idea to trust. People who just want use and trust their computer.

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I’m with you on this. I think a youtube / peertube channel providing GUI only tutorials could do quite well and would help to further the linux cause

I’m too lazy do it, but someone should

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this meme once again shows a Linux terminal command (that only works on specific distros)

sshfs only works on certain distros? Oh you mean the apt install part.

the button in the File Manager to add the network share to your left sidebar.

I just browse to the network location I want and right click on the view in the file manager and select “add to places”. It will be there on the sidebar until I remove it. Yes it is there after a reboot.

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But sshfs also works across the internet…quick and dirty file access from anywhere in the world. If you can SSH to a machine, you can get a mountable file system.

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sshfs also works across the internet…quick and dirty file access from anywhere in the world.

I almost said that. It was my first thought. But then the people discussing it seemed kind of focused on local networks so…

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Windows: ☠️

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It’s pretty easy. Just right mouse click the network and Map Network Drive. Follow prompts. Success

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Windows does not have native SSHFS support

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It doesn’t need it. All NAS systems have samba on by default.

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@jaschen @SpaceNoodle or some unknown error only disappearing after reboot (especially with winsshfs/winfsp-like drivers)

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Just use samba.

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I mean, if your server is using samba to share: net use * \homeserver\share {password} /user: {username} /persistent: yes /savecreds

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Windows terminal commands are an abomination before the site of the LORD.

They were wise enough to include a mount alias though so if you pretend you’re on Linux it’ll work well enough.

No idea if it supports SMB or ssh though, but it works with NFS

mount -t nfs3 server:/srv/nfs/exporteddir E:

Mounts an NFS export to the E drive.

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You can even bypass all that and just mount it in the Explorer GUI.

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I’ve used this in the past (on the client side) https://github.com/winfsp/sshfs-win

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Works just as seamless as on Linux, has amazing GUI options too.

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My SO has a MacBook, and I thought no sweat, I’m sure I can just autofs or something onto the NAS so that the photo storage is always there. I was wrong. Why dies it have to be such a pain? So clunky, so unreliable.

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Why dies it have to be such a pain?

Intentionally bad, if you buy Apple you’re supposed to use iCloud and never, ever leave the ecosystem.

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Because SMB works reliably on macOS. Never had an issue. I also prefer Cyberduck and actual sftp so … take my word with a grain of salt.

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My issue wasn’t SMB, but automounting the share. As in, turn on wireless, the share is available. I’m coming from Linux and am pretty clueless with MacOS.

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I mean, AutoFS itself can be pretty painful

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Running both Linux and macOS on a daily basis… They’re both completely competent, and have basically the same amount of rough edges once you dig in and get your hands dirty. If you find one of them impossibly difficult, it’s a skill issue.

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Lol. Yeah.

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