Summary

Elon Musk announced that his AI startup xAI has merged with his social media platform X in an all-stock deal, valuing xAI at $80 billion and X at $33 billion.

Musk stated the merger will combine AI expertise with X’s broad reach.

xAI, launched less than two years ago, competes with OpenAI and has developed the Grok chatbot, integrated with X.

230 points

why does this feel like a twitter bailout. so he gets to shuffle the financial deck of these 2 so twitter isnt a complete failure monetarily?

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120 points

yes, he uses the hype investor cash that poured into the ai boondogle to cover his insane twitter purchase and literally bail himself out of his stupidity

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49 points

How do i do that with a mortgage?

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44 points

You need another property. Work a shady deal with a bank to massively overvalue that property. Borrow against that equity.

“Well what do I do with an overvalued loan on my other property now?” I hear you ask. Simple! Have another another property. Work a shady deal to massively overvalue…

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19 points

That depends, do you have the “rich” status condition?

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4 points

Have the most money in the world.

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28 points
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It’s not a xhitter bailout. It’s a robbery of shareholder investment.

If he wants to use xhitter content for grok, that’s gonna be most fucked up LLM of all.

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3 points

It’s gonna make Bender look like a commie saint

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97 points

Hmm…

Manipulating stocks between companies you own for fun and profit…

Sounds pretty Ferengi to me.

And no accountings shall be held…

🙄 🤡 🤦‍♀️ 🖕

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21 points

Elon has violated securities laws blatantly for years now. Yeah, he won’t be held accountable. And a good half of people still wonder why inequality is such a bad thing.

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15 points

He essentially did the same thing with Solar City a decade ago. Although that was “owned” by his cousins and he bailed them out with by buying it for a few billion.

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2 points

Bimbo AG Blondie: looks good to me! Nothing illegal.

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80 points

Two companies no one wanted now one company no one wants.

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54 points

Company worthless? Sell it to yourself for a ludicrous cost to increase your market value!

You mad, wage slaves?

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33 points

Then immediately borrow real money against the paper value of your new merger company. Pocket a few billion and use some to bribe the feds to not audit you.

It’s crime all the way down.

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19 points

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7 points

No need for a bribe. Just fire all the financial investigators.

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48 points

valuing xAI at $80 billion and X at $33 billion

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50 points

Market cap of Twitter was $41B, Musk overpaid at $44B,

Fidelity valued it at $9.4B late last year.

xAI paid $33B for it this year.

So this is a significantly worse overpay.

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24 points

This is just his left hand paying his right so he can claim Twitter’s value is comparable to what he initally paid for it. He’s getting fixated on people talking about his losses again, and is getting ready to call someone a pedo on main again.

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11 points

It’s all to defraud investors. The SEC isn’t going to touch him, and when the earnings report for Tesla is due I bet it’s going to show that the woke libtards were wrong and Tesla sales actually quadrupled in the past 4 months.

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Musk overpaid at $44B,

Yes, but about $14 billion was financed by debt rather than shares of stock, so the market cap immediately dropped to $30B as a result (enterprise value is market cap + outstanding debt because in a liquidation the debt would be paid out of the assets before the shareholders get anything). So in a sense, the current shares were worth about $30B at the time of the 2022 transaction.

If this new merger is a private transaction that values X at $33B and xAI at $80B, and everyone agrees, it’s functionally the same as if it were worth $3.3B and $8B.

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It went up after the election. Last valuation was back to $44B. It not about Twtter’s valuation, it’s about Tesla stock price. I don’t understand the scam but I’m pretty sure he had to refinance his loan somehow because Tesla stock dropped.

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