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Outrageous. I would actually be protesting if this were to happen in my country, and you wouldn’t hear the end of it. Protect-the-children my ass, this is an attack on the freedom of the common folk. Criminals will continue to use encryption even if its against the law; they were already commiting crimes, so what’s one more in the list?

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This is exactly why this shit is stupid. Basic private key infrastructure will never have the backdoors they believe they need. Nor should it. The principles and algorithms are simply too well known, and there are far too many code examples to truly put this cat back in the bag. All this does is make the average person less secure while doing nothing to actual spies, terrorists or organized criminals.

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It will be if you don’t give them backdoor.

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They can take my back door by force

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Ooh la la

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How is a country going to end encryption worldwide? The West okay, bu what jurisdiction do they have over me?

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That’s what I also fail to grasp.

If things get serious and for example the WhatsApp, Telegram and Signals of the world have to disable e2ee to keep operating in the UK, I guess they could just leave that market before compromising data privacy of their users worldwide.

I don’t see this “ending encryption worldwide” thingy happening, at all.

But they could dig themselves a deeper hole after Brexit, that’s definitely possible and wouldn’t surprise me a bit.

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Or ship specific versions of their software for the UK, as it is done with other software in other countries with restrictions.

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A lot of them have already said they’d withdraw (facetime, iMessage, signal, WhatsApp included).

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Just make a list how many companies tech companies operate from west. All those companies have to follow the law of the homeland.

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Sure, but most of those companies didn’t even care much about privacy any way. How would this affect Matrix for example?

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Apple have already said they will shut down iMessage support in the UK if the bill passes.

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this cryptographer working thing which will affect quantum computing, blockchain and integration of data. I don’t know much about Matrix so I can’t comment on that.

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Not even the West. Just the UK.

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Idk where you live, but much of the world already lacks privacy

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What you said means pretty much nothing if you don’t take the time to explain it.

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What I meant is, I literally don’t know where you live, so I don’t know why it doesn’t impact you “outside the west”

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This bill seems to be all sort of bad (maybe with some good intentions), really hope it doesn’t pass to not give other countries any ideas

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Please don’t fall in that trap. Authoritarian attacks on citizens have always been neatly wrapped in either anti-terrorism or protect-the-children propaganda since the dawn of politics. This is a very obvious and delibirate attempt to further remove freedom from the common folk.

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It’s not really that hard to deploy a matrix server. So this bill is dumb as anyone who wants encrypted messages can easily have them.

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I’m all for Matrix, but the things is, Matrix is primarily developed by people in the UK. They will be easily forced to implement backdoors.

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That’s good to know🙏

Hopefully some trustworthy third party can audit the code if this ever becomes a thing.

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I’m not sure auditing would be enough. We would literally need a development team outside of dictatoric countries like the UK, where such things can be forced.

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