47 points

Unsurprising, but knowing Microsoft they’ll still fuck it up somehow.

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They can hardly avoid screwing up, really.

The whole draw of Steam Deck is that it’s a carefully curated experience where everything from the OS upwards is crafted to play nicely together and “Just Work” to bring that console-like experience to PC gaming.

Whatever Microsoft are putting together isn’t going to have that end-to-end consideration. It will be nothing more than a skinned launcher on top of Windows 11, and no matter how shiny that launcher looks you won’t be able to hide from Windows for long. All the normal Windows bloat will be there, and I wouldn’t be surprised if you spend as much time messing around in actual Windows as you do playing games.

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15 points

“I can’t wait for my PC to load the classic Windows UI elements, the Metro elements AND THIS NEW UI all at the same time regardless of what applications I’m running. It’s not going to put unnecessary strain on the hardware or introduce annoying bugs and instability at all!” -Somebody, probably.

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5 points

They tried doing something that would have fit with Windows 8 and they ROYALLY screwed that up.

I don’t know how you don’t think about how people that use Windows Server and how they have difficulties reaching the start menu. Seriously, trying to go into the top left or side with your mouse makes no sense. They have so many project managers, QA and process and somehow they screwed up that hard.

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They tried doing something that would have fit with Windows 8 and they ROYALLY screwed that up.

Honestly, they were onto something, but instead of polishing it, or even just starting over, they just abandoned it entirely, never to be revisited.

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5 points

My crystal ball says Gamepass device. Comes with a free subscription for the first 6 months… Hard to see, it might be a free year.

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4 points

I a calling it now they slap metro from windows 8 on it and call it a day and stills has forced reboots

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3 points

You’ll get a knock on the door when you are gunning down innocent people in GTA6 because Windows Recall got pictures it sent to the FBI of your violent behaviour.

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38 points

No thanks, ill stick to steam OS

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30 points

But I neither want a “like” experience nor windows 11 – pass.

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22 points

Don’t need Windows anymore, thanks to Proton. Bless Lord Gaben.

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9 points

Wine*

But anticheat still gets in the way

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7 points

Meh, I’m fine not playing games that require kernel level access to my system to prevent cheating, or games by devs that are able to set the anticheat to allow Linux users to play but just don’t.

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If my device is dedicated to just games, sure, otherwise they can pound sand. Take a look around the world today. You think an org is just going to be like “ya this is for anti-cheat” and stop there? I laugh.

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3 points

Wine definitely deserves credit but without Valve’s support of Proton, Linux still wouldn’t be viable for most gaming.

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4 points

VR sucks in Linux tho

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5 points

I mean ms killed off mixed reality (windows vr headsets) in latest win11. So I’ve got a useless headset now 🙃

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1 point

No? Have a look at LVRA, many headsets are supported, and IMO using Monado is better than SteamVR…

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Can you get it to work? Absolutely. However, you will have more framerate drops and glitchy graphics than in windows, and framerate drops in VR are 1000x worse than in non-VR because they make you motionsick as hell

Direct quote from the link you posted:

SteamVR

The de facto standard for anything PCVR, SteamVR runs on Linux.

Unfortunately the Linux version is riddled with bugs, missing features and bad performace, so in general it can be a subpar experience.

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2 points

Grumble. Proton is great, but let’s not pretend Lord Gaben did it all, proton is built on top of wine.

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Yes and before valve got involved gaming on wine was a hit and miss (mostly a miss). Whereas now basically 100% of the games i play just work with no to minimal tinkering. They put in a lot of effort to get all the kinks out. And steam input is also a huge factor in this. Downplaying their involvement is akin to downplaying wine’s achievements because it’s built on top of linux.

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I’m not downplaying proton, proton is great and I use it a lot, but when people tout proton and how awesome it is, wine is downplayed. Wine has been a huge project for years and years.

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14 points

Swapped to Linux mint a week ago, and is it just me or does it unzip files like 20x faster

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I’m not sure, but I think the windows progress bar thingy includes the time spent actually writing to disk, whereas on Linux (or i guess cinnamon) only shows when it gets to disk-cache. If you are full on RAM or tried shutting down immediately afterwards it should take a bit longer since it has to actually write it to disk

Thats my guess anyway

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It probably does because Mint uses less CPU than Windows. That’s just speculation on my part though.

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It’s honestly insane. I zipped up a bunch of files (mainly emulation and modding) to total around a terabyte. I moved it to an external hd and then to Linux, and it only took about an hour to unpack it. I’ve never had something unpack so fast

For a smaller scale example, I had a ~2GB file that unzipped in about 10 seconds as well

Sure, it took me 15 minutes to scrounge around online trying to figure out why my .rar file wasn’t unzipping properly, but after that I saved all that time and then some

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I’m glad it’s working out for you. I’ve never realky worked with .zip files larger than 8gb but I have some tar.gz folders that are 80-90gb in size. I haven’t had to unpack one yet tho.

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